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Old October 28th, 2010, 00:50   #631
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Good idea.

You can get real steel Lightning fiber optic rods for $10... they're the brightest fiber on the market, and you get 12" of it for that $10. Available colours are red, green and yellow. They can even go down to 0.040".

I'd follow Daiviet's recommendation to extend the rear fibres further towards the muzzle, as the sides of fibre optic rods capture as much light (if not more) than the bulbed ends. I don't notice it as much with airsoft rods, but with rods like the Lightning rods, the sides are coated with a sheathing layer that increases the refraction index when compared to the core. It makes the dot look like it's almost on fire. LOL. Basically, the longer your rods, the brighter the dots.

on the other hand, the way you have it set up can work well too, especially if you're not placing contrasting colours between front and back. The brighter front dot will be easier to distinguish from the rears. To each his own. I know plenty of guys who swear by irons only.

Hey Brian, any suggestions on where to get the RS fibre optic rods for $10?

EDIT: The only store I found is the 1911store.com. Is this the one ure referring to?

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Old October 28th, 2010, 00:51   #632
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I think there might actually be a rule in CAPS against NBB....
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Old October 28th, 2010, 12:25   #633
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The slide must be able to move back in order to unload and show clear
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Old October 28th, 2010, 16:16   #634
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Hey Brian, any suggestions on where to get the RS fibre optic rods for $10?

EDIT: The only store I found is the 1911store.com. Is this the one ure referring to?
That would be where I get a lot of my real pistol items.

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I think there might actually be a rule in CAPS against NBB....
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Old October 28th, 2010, 17:45   #635
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The slide must be able to move back in order to unload and show clear
then i need to stop shortstroking my gun any further lol
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Old October 28th, 2010, 18:46   #636
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As long as you can load a round I think you are fine...lol
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Old October 29th, 2010, 11:03   #637
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Yeah, I don't think we have any limitations set for extreme modifications, as long as you're in open division. Besides, most mods these days go more extreme than the shooter. LOL. If you can pull the trigger for a double tap that fast, then more power to you!
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Old November 3rd, 2010, 09:15   #638
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So I've been mucking around with my Hi-Capa again...

I discovered a set of Guarder high performance output valves in my bin, while finally piecing my Hi-Capa together after what feels like quite a while (I got frustrated with leaf spring/trigger stirrup installation issues and dumped it into a parts bin a month or two ago). Anyone done testing with these? I really don't want them to go to waste... I have read that they are more consistent than the high flow valves, and use less gas than high flows. However, how do they compare to stock TM valves? I'm noticing only a fractional increase in kick (that might just be me thinking that subconsciously, though). No chrono to test these out. Its 5:12 AM currently, so I don't want to go about charging up my mags with propane and testing the gas consumption as my landlords might not be too happy - does this improve over the stock valves, or is it only gas efficiency? I do recall digging up an older thread on this a year ago, and I think it mentioned something about an increase in performance, but not related to actual output of gas.

Seeing as I have half a week till I can sit around with a chrono and plink, I figured I might as well ask those of you who might have compared these with other valves already. Any input?
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Old November 3rd, 2010, 13:10   #639
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At one point, I'd rounded up every single high flow valve available on the market that I could get my hands on, and like my spring comparison chart, I ran them through a battery of tests to figure out how some compared against each other (to answer common questions), and of course, to find out the 'best' high flow valve of the bunch.

The verdict: KM high flow valves took top choice.
I did this exact same type of test years earlier with the KSC Glock series, and the KM valves were also the cream of the crop.



One of the most commonly asked questions at the time was the same one you are asking now, so to answer your questions about the Guarder set of valves: Between the two models, the High Output valves gave the highest initial velocity outputs, but had the greatest extreme spread and highest deviation.

The High Performance valves featured a more stable velocity. While the highest velocity was not as high as the "High Output", and the average velocity was slightly lower as well, these had a more stable output. However, they DID provide a velocity increase over stock TM valves, although I found they were not as stable.

For what it's worth, the "High Performance" valves are still considered to be high flow valves as they do increase velocity, but Guarder had created a differentiation between the two models due to slightly different performance characteristics. Choosing them came down to what performance characteristics you were after. Also note, that these valves require attention to be paid to how they are installed. The output port must face UP, and directly out of the gas routing rubber.
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Old November 3rd, 2010, 14:07   #640
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hi i want to upgrade my external parts of my marui hi capa 5.1 government model , so i bought parts ;
1. SD metal slide 5"
2. SD metal frame 5"
3. SD 5" steel outer barrel straight , although i preffered the SD V12 version but i doubt its compability with other parts related
4. SD metal chamber ( for this parts , do i really need to change it ? the stock parts seems reliable for me )
5. SD POM Cylinder Set marui Hi Capa ( is this the right parts ? )

so , what do i miss ??
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Old November 3rd, 2010, 14:21   #641
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See my reply to your PM.

But to summarize (as your post is slightly different now):

1) Metal barrel bushing is absolutely required to be used with straight barrel setup. Otherwise, straight barrel will not be supported and you will have huge cycling/accuracy issues.
2) V12 barrel is NOT compatible with barrel bushing setup
3) Not all Shooters Design slides will accept barrel bushing. You will need to check when you receive the slide.
4) I would recommend an enhanced recoil spring in the upgrade as well.
5) The POM nozzle set is the right one. I would just warn against using the floating valve it comes with, because it will malfunction if you use higher power gas like green gas / top gas / propane.

As for "what do you miss" that depends on whatever other performance/aesthetic characteristics you would like to achieve. But the basic issues with your setup are outlined above.

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Old November 3rd, 2010, 14:45   #642
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See my reply to your PM.

But to summarize (as your post is slightly different now):

1) Metal barrel bushing is absolutely required to be used with straight barrel setup. Otherwise, straight barrel will not be supported and you will have huge cycling/accuracy issues.
2) V12 barrel is NOT compatible with barrel bushing setup
3) Not all Shooters Design slides will accept barrel bushing. You will need to check when you receive the slide.
4) I would recommend an enhanced recoil spring in the upgrade as well.
5) The POM nozzle set is the right one. I would just warn against using the floating valve it comes with, because it will malfunction if you use higher power gas like green gas / top gas / propane.

As for "what do you miss" that depends on whatever other performance/aesthetic characteristics you would like to achieve. But the basic issues with your setup are outlined above.
thanks, i don't score for the perfomance/aesthetic characteristic , i just want to change the look of it and durability for now.
internal upgrades will be my next plan although i bought pdi precision barrel
so this is all the parts that i've bought ;

1. Shooters Design SHPD Sign HICAPA51 SV
2. Shooters Design CNC Xcelerator
3. Shooters design Outer Barrel 5" straight
4. Shooters design metal chamber infinity
5. Shooters design metal bushing
6. king arms recoil and hammer spring
7. Shooters Design POM cylinder set for marui hicapa
8. PDI 01 Precision Inner Barrel 5" for Marui Hi-Capa 5.1

is this enough ? or i still have something missing ?? do u think all parts that i bought will fit especially the metal slide and the metal bushing??

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Old November 3rd, 2010, 15:01   #643
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All those parts should fit, and they are also more than enough.

Although, be prepared - the Xcelerator receiver will require a bit of fitment. If this is the first time you are doing any type of GBB upgrade or if you are not familiar with how to work with hand tools, you may find difficulty.

I'm curious, where are you from?
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Old November 3rd, 2010, 15:07   #644
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All those parts should fit, and they are also more than enough.

Although, be prepared - the Xcelerator receiver will require a bit of fitment. If this is the first time you are doing any type of GBB upgrade or if you are not familiar with how to work with hand tools, you may find difficulty.

I'm curious, where are you from?
i come from indonesia , sorry for my bad bad english
you mean that i choose the wrong receiver , do you have any suggestion about the receiver that i should choose
this is my 2nd ,but i just want to make sure so i don't make errors twice.
that's why i choose to gather many information related
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Old November 3rd, 2010, 15:13   #645
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i come from indonesia , sorry for my bad bad english
you mean that i choose the wrong receiver , do you have any suggestion about the receiver that i should choose
this is my 2nd ,but i just want to make sure so i don't make errors twice.
that's why i choose to gather many information related
No need to apologize, my friend. In Canada, almost all of us come from backgrounds who do not speak English as our native language. I was just curious, that's all, as we do welcome international users and like meeting people around the world.

I did not mean to say you chose the "wrong" receiver. I just mean to say that many brands and products have quirks about them. What I mentioned about the Shooters Design receiver is just a common problem that I have seen with them - maybe due to engineering error, or due to machining error. Just so you are aware of it and are prepared to make the modifications required to fit it.
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