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Old July 26th, 2011, 02:36   #586
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A. That one is steel. 18" is extrememly long. In fact insane. and at any length over 10" that steel becomes very front heavy
B. the one i have is aluminum, hand turned on a lathe, only 12" long. Just enough to clear the inner barrel.
C. Ive seen crappy 3piece barrel extensions go for more than $60.

So maybe bad idea to you, but to me I dont see a problem.
If you look at the picture, it's obvious it's not 18", I think 18" is the total inner length left on the SCAR using that outer. For what I know, it's actually 3 1/2" longer than the one Ross and I have at the moment, so it should be slightly shorter than the one you're offering. I guess the weight is a factor to consider.
I hope you didn't take it too personal, deadly, it was just my opinion on the part, and why I wouldn't buy it, as the black would look kind of out of place as well.


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Old July 26th, 2011, 02:43   #587
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No Im sorry I didnt take it personally and did not mean for it to sound that way if it did.
Please define what you mean by 18" left on the inner of the scar? Im still lost with that one, Using the stock QCB barrel on the scar and a 510mm inner barrel leaves aprox. 11 some odd inches of exposed inner barrel. Henceforth the 12" on mine. If that outer you show is anything short of 12" your going to be showing inner barrel.
and not to try and "convince" any one to buy. But I honestly Like black over any gunmetal object. My M4 carbine length OB attachment I powdercoated black as well, And love it. All up to you guys. Just offering the choice. Again It doesnt have to be black.

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Old July 26th, 2011, 02:50   #588
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No Im sorry I didnt take it personally and did not mean for it to sound that way if it did.
Please define what you mean by 18" left on the inner of the scar? Im still lost with that one, Using the stock QCB barrel on the scar and a 510mm inner barrel leaves aprox. 11 some odd inches of exposed inner barrel. Henceforth the 12" on mine. If that outer you show is anything short of 12" your going to be showing inner barrel.
Yep. Another point for your outer. The one I linked is slightly shorter than yours.
But most SCAR users who go to a DMR platform usually get the M14 440mm inner. A 510mm inner seems WAY excesive (and unnecessary).
So that's why I said that as a commercial product, it doesn't have much out, since while the SCAR seems pretty popular as a DMR, VERY few people go for a 500mm+ inner. And there's an outer that will cover up to 460mm of inner already.
And when I mentioned it being expensive, it was only in relative numbers, it's definitely NOT overpriced, but compared to the one I linked at 30-odd dollars, it might appear as such.


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Old July 26th, 2011, 02:55   #589
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Oh no, I get what your saying price wise, I was a little stunned myself when he named off the price. But again this isnt a massive production run either this is a small batch based on intrest. I make no profit on these, the price I ask is what he askes I have no take on them. I was a little dissappointed at the price but he makes them not me. Had I a lathe Id be happy to lower it. I wouldnt see why you wouldnt go 510. Granted it is LONG, but why not? its not like its a 600 or 650 like AEG's carry. Plus (dont quote me on it) but If your going for a SSR look its about as close as your going to get as no one makes an SSR upper for these.
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Old July 26th, 2011, 10:42   #590
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I have received my deadly's 27 today and i have to say good work that's pretty nice
The hole on the top doesn't match very well but still nice work
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Old July 26th, 2011, 15:40   #591
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I have heard from a couple others that the top hole is a little tight. I suggest that when you install it start with the top screw first, screw it in about halfway. Then start the 4 side screws, get them started, and then tighten down all 5.
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Old July 26th, 2011, 18:04   #592
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I have received my deadly's 27 today and i have to say good work that's pretty nice
The hole on the top doesn't match very well but still nice work
Tight is better way better job then TSC's part 66 which is loose and out of alignment.

Nice work deadly, thanks

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But most SCAR users who go to a DMR platform usually get the M14 440mm inner. Fox.
That is what I did a 440mm inner but I want to use a silencer rather than an outer barrel to cover the inner. I got an all metal G&G silencer thinking it would be strong and wouldn't move when attached. However it came as a QD with just foam inside and is not solid when it's attached to the flash hider, ie it moves a little. Now I am worried about support protection for the inner barrel so that it doesn't get moved around. How do I get support protection for the inner barrel inside of a silencer?

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Old July 26th, 2011, 18:14   #593
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Other than that, how did the 66 fit sliding over the 27? everything else come out alright?
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Old July 26th, 2011, 18:50   #594
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That is what I did a 440mm inner but I want to use a silencer rather than an outer barrel to cover the inner. I got an all metal G&G silencer thinking it would be strong and wouldn't move when attached. However it came as a QD with just foam inside and is not solid when it's attached to the flash hider, ie it moves a little. Now I am worried about support protection for the inner barrel so that it doesn't get moved around. How do I get support protection for the inner barrel inside of a silencer?
I have the Element QD silencer (which I REALLY like) which also comes with foam inside, I removed it since it was catching some of the BBs. No BBs get stuck anymore, so you shouldn't have much trouble. While it's easy to remove, once it's screwed on, it won't move a bit. It's also good that it isn't 100% solid, since it would add considereably more wight otherwise.


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Old July 26th, 2011, 19:11   #595
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I have the Element QD silencer (which I REALLY like) which also comes with foam inside, I removed it since it was catching some of the BBs. No BBs get stuck anymore, so you shouldn't have much trouble. While it's easy to remove, once it's screwed on, it won't move a bit. It's also good that it isn't 100% solid, since it would add considereably more wight otherwise. Fox.
I guess I should have said my inner goes right through the silencer and almost comes out the end of the silencer. So there is 170mm or so of inner that has no support and is only covered by the silencer. The silencer moves a little because it's a QD when I thought it was going to be a screw on. So it doesn't fit tight on the flashhider and will wiggle. If I take out the foam then the silencer exit hole will go out of alignment with the inner when it moves and the bb's won't leave the silencer.
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Old July 26th, 2011, 19:58   #596
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Ok deadly. That barrel extension fox linked is 8.5 inches long. Coupled with a short silencer, it would cover the whole inner barrel and save me 20 dollars. (and it's the right color) If he has already started production of my barrel extension, I'll still take it. Is there no way he will come down on the price at all?
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Old July 26th, 2011, 22:11   #597
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I guess I should have said my inner goes right through the silencer and almost comes out the end of the silencer. So there is 170mm or so of inner that has no support and is only covered by the silencer. The silencer moves a little because it's a QD when I thought it was going to be a screw on. So it doesn't fit tight on the flashhider and will wiggle. If I take out the foam then the silencer exit hole will go out of alignment with the inner when it moves and the bb's won't leave the silencer.
Well, mine is QD, but with a screw. You can easily unscrew it, so it's not QD in the traditional sense, but it's as easy to remove. I very much like this silencer (very versatile size, solid build, white markings, which I prefer to the engraved ones). As I said, BBs don't get stuck; you might want to consider selling or trading yours and getting one of these?


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Old July 27th, 2011, 06:07   #598
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Well, mine is QD, but with a screw. You can easily unscrew it, so it's not QD in the traditional sense, but it's as easy to remove. I very much like this silencer (very versatile size, solid build, white markings, which I prefer to the engraved ones). As I said, BBs don't get stuck; you might want to consider selling or trading yours and getting one of these?


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Was hoping someone had the same problem and found a fix. I guess if I can't figure it out I won't have too many options.

Thanks for the help Fox.
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Old July 27th, 2011, 06:18   #599
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@ Ross, I can try and talk him down but i mean if he does its only going to be 10-15$ your still gonna end up paying $40-50 your choice. Just an offer nobody had to buy em. Your lucky you didnt have to buy the first one. $100 for the one I have (I had to buy the drill and -14mm tap) so Id say you guys have it easy =P

@Krash, You could always trim you inner barrel down? might not be the option you want but thats one way. You can get the barrel and QD fox suggested or the extension he posted a couple pages back. If not theres these here from EHobbyasia.com
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This one has QD muzzle break on it
527mm Scar sniper
Scar H sniper

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Old July 27th, 2011, 11:37   #600
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I had a thread adapter kicking around so I added it on to get 10mm more length, the inner is now a little less in the silencer. Added thread tape on the flashhider until it required a lot of force to get it on and locked. The thread tape is not a permanent solution and has to be re-applied after taking the silencer off but it is easy to put back on again. Since I don't take the silencer off other than for maintenace this isn't a problem. With everything tightened up there is no more alignment issues. The silencer still moves very slightly if pushed on sideways a lot but inner barrel still stays aligned, so bb's still exit witout changing trajectory.

@ deadly thanks for the info good to have more options.
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