Heavy Bastards

[Donster]

Black BBs are overrated because unless you have your BB flight path memorized you can't always see what where your shots go. IMHO

[pusangani]

Originally Posted by coachster

I would rather pay for black BB's in .25 or .28 over going heavier.

+1

[Wilson]

Originally Posted by DONSTER 125

Black BBs are overrated because unless you have your BB flight path memorized you can't always see what where your shots go. IMHO

I take it you don't do real steel shooting?

[Sha Do]

Originally Posted by FOX_111

Also, I have no data that show the usefullness of a BB heavyer than 0.43g. in 6mm. Even if the 0.43g was made all metal, at the velocities we use, it would not be dangerous.

It's not the velocity that is the issue with metal BBs, but rather the fact that they transfer a lot more of the kenetic energy to what ever they hit. Plastic flexes and chips upon impact, metal does not. Therefore there becomes a greater risk of cracking a set of goggles when you use metal BBs.

I'd like to see up to a 0.40 gram weight BB made with out metal, though again you'd have a limited market. Black or OD in all weights (0.25s, 0.28s, 0.30s, 0.36s, and 0.40s)...easier to track on bright days, or during those winter games.
But what ever you decide Jay, keep up the quality....there still the best BBs around in my opinion.

SHA DO

[FOX_111]

I have to data that show the difference in energie transfert of plastic vs metal BBs. It's logical, but still un-demonstrated. The only thing that come to mind, are the wild BBs used in some other country where they shattered windows due to their abnormal density. It's still unproven though.

[Donster]

Originally Posted by Wilson

I take it you don't do real steel shooting?

no. not yet... dont get me wrong. i know that post made me sound ignorant. i apologize and i didn't mean to belittle your opinion in any way, shape or form. its just that with the inherent accuracy issues of airsoft, i dont quite see the usefulness of black bbs unless i know the flight path of my BB down to the T. that being said, i would rather pay more for heavy bbs than black bbs. sorry if i came across in a negative light.

[bean]

Scarecrow have you thought of offering your bb's up on a more then canadian basis. I know the heavier weight bb's are slowly diminishing and people who use ba's are starting to get concerned.

[kmsakura]

Originally Posted by DONSTER 125

when i say metal core, im referring to a VERY tiny one that is only used to increase the weight of the of bb. if the metal core is 2mm in diamter, there is still 2mm of plastic covering the core all around. currently, i have yet to hear about a BB Bastard BB shattering, though with the introduction of the metal core, it is possible i think

isn't a heavy middle with a light softer outside how they make Armour piercing bullets? i know its unlikely but couldn't that potentially cause more damage if it strikes a hard surface, like the plastic body of some guns if the metal somehow punches thought the plastic?

[coach]

Originally Posted by DONSTER 125

Black BBs are overrated because unless you have your BB flight path memorized you can't always see what where your shots go. IMHO

That's what a scope or an RDS are for. I had no issues using the black MT .25's I bought for border wars.

[BeAcH]

I just mix black and white bbs together, 60/40 works alot better than straight black bb's

[Scarecrow]

Originally Posted by bean

Scarecrow have you thought of offering your bb's up on a more then canadian basis. I know the heavier weight bb's are slowly diminishing and people who use ba's are starting to get concerned.

If I do go `international`(ie: Canada & US) I`ll use eBay to experiment first. The problem is BBs are heavy and shipping becomes progressively more expensive the greater distance you ship to the point where the customer won`t bear the cost anymore - so it becomes a local thing.

[bean]

Now if you could ship them in bulk to say a supplier or someone like spartan imports in the us who handles most the stuff being brought in would that be more effective?

[Barf]

There's a few on the sniper crew that are in for .36 whites. I'm definitely in for some. The graphite coated bb's tend to foul the barrel.

I shoot .28 with my L96 and the performance is amazing

[Scarecrow]

Originally Posted by bean

Now if you could ship them in bulk to say a supplier or someone like spartan imports in the us who handles most the stuff being brought in would that be more effective?

No, I`d never do rice bags. It brings up the opportunity to rebrand them and Ive put too much work into my brand.

[Drake]

Since people are bringing up black BBs, have you ever considered doing tracers? Specially in heavier than the typical .2g and preferably in red/orange.