Replicas siezed in York Region

[KaOz]

Originally Posted by Naerah

go ahead, but dont say any names or site adresses.

Noted.

I will never disclose any names nor any of the retailers, etc. Keep in mind that I too am part of the community and would never want to cause harm to anyone or anything.

I will also not state ASC or the website - I will speak in general terms as in an "Airsoft Group" - leaving out the term community... so as to not hint at anything. Mind you, police intelligence might have already caught on and could be watching... so post carefully, at least for the moment. It is not too difficult to google airsoft + canada and viola.

Cheers,
KaOz.

[Scarecrow]

I'm a member of the NRA, the NFA and the CSSA, and I can tell you right now, you're not going to get support from any of them them. We've solicited the NRA for help in Canada for real firearms and while we have their moral support, they don't see a mandate to push their agenda in another country that only has a handful of paying members in it like myself. Are you a paid member of any of those organizations? Why should they defend your property rights regarding replica/imitation firearms?

You can try the NFA (Canadian version) but they are doing all they can just to hang on to Canadian firearms owners rights, they're probably not going to spend much time or resources defending replica firearms, and some circles in the firearms community would agree about banning airsoft guns - so I don't think thats a productive direction either.

Ultimately the response will have to come from this community. There are members here that have been engaged in a dialog with the government on and off for some time. So like I said, I am waiting for more information (24-72 hour timeframe) before I say or do anything definitive.

[KaOz]

Originally Posted by thorvald

Go ahead and call but the cops will just give the same old song and dance that they can't tell the difference between a replica and a real gun...hence they should all be taken off the streets.

The bloody idiots will just not get it through their heads... if someone is brandishing a weapon in public, especially while committing or attempting to commit a crime, they deserve the maximum response from the law.

The cop should not be trying to determine if it's real or not. Assume it's real. There is no difference. They just became a criminal for gods sakes, don't be nice!

If an "innocent kid" is waving a toy gun in public, he's obviously not innocent and needs to learn a life lesson really quickly courtesy of the ETF!

But as per usual, punish the majority for one persons mistake.

Ah will it ever end, next we'll be banning knives like they are trying to do in the UK.

The first part of journalism my friend is to know how to walk that tight rope... as to get one's message across without backing down on what point is trying to be made.

I will not be rude to anyone who I speak to and will not be speaking to any regular "police officier" - I want the head of the task force. If I have to track everyone down and ultimately talk to the top cop as they call it, I will.

As for the member who contacted the NRA - can that person please contact me ASAP! I need to know who and what was said.

Also, if someone could please email me the regulations as to airsoft ownage, etc. I need as much information as possible to gather an arguement/questions.

Seeing as no one is actually posting questions they would like answered in an intelligent fashion, I am left but to make them on my own.

Cheers,
KaOz.

[thorvald]

Originally Posted by Armyissue

The people named in the charges are not the same person operating the link you posted. It is not him.

Good point, an Admin may want to delete that post before those poor fools get a no-knock entry from the McCowan Road Good Humor Squad.

[KaOz]

Originally Posted by thorvald

Good point, an Admin may want to delete that post before those poor fools get a no-knock entry from the McCowan Road Good Humor Squad.

Okay, I am sorry to have to say this but can we please keep all this fakeness and humour aside? This to me is a very real and important issue that we as a community have to face head-on. For the remainder of this post, can we please not call the Police or anyone relating to this incident by slang terms or comical ones?

Thank you and apologies if I am voicing my anger,
KaOz.

[KaOz]

Originally Posted by Scarecrow

I'm a member of the NRA, the NFA and the CSSA, and I can tell you right now, you're not going to get support from any of them them. We've solicited the NRA for help in Canada for real firearms and while we have their moral support, they don't see a mandate to push their agenda in another country that only has a handful of paying members in it like myself. Are you a paid member of any of those organizations? Why should they defend your property rights regarding replica/imitation firearms?

You can try the NFA (Canadian version) but they are doing all they can just to hang on to Canadian firearms owners rights, they're probably not going to spend much time or resources defending replica firearms, and some circles in the firearms community would agree about banning airsoft guns - so I don't think thats a productive direction either.

Ultimately the response will have to come from this community. There are members here that have been engaged in a dialog with the government on and off for some time. So like I said, I am waiting for more information (24-72 hour timeframe) before I say or do anything definitive.

GOOD POINTS... until tomorrow or the day after then. I shall leave it at that and worst case, will make my call on Monday morning after I have gathered the necessary information.

Again to stress this - it is a serious issue and if you are going to make a joke of it... please post somewhere else.

Thank you,
KaOz.

[Scarecrow]

Originally Posted by thorvald

Good point, an Admin may want to delete that post before those poor fools get a no-knock entry from the McCowan Road Good Humor Squad.

Your exposure to CF is beginning to show... I'm bookmarking that one...

[Scarecrow]

I'm not saying don't talk about it, I am just saying there is nothing to do, no action you can take, at this stage, but dialog and exchanging ideas are never a bad thing.

[KaOz]

Originally Posted by Scarecrow

I'm not saying don't talk about it, I am just saying there is nothing to do, no action you can take, at this stage, but dialog and exchanging ideas are never a bad thing.

Well, I will leave the good dialogue and idea exchanges to you good men (and women?)... until tomorrow.

Cheers,
KaOz.

[thorvald]

Originally Posted by KaOz

Okay, I am sorry to have to say this but can we please keep all this fakeness and humour aside? This to me is a very real and important issue that we as a community have to face head-on. For the remainder of this post, can we please not call the Police or anyone relating to this incident by slang terms or comical ones?

Thank you and apologies if I am voicing my anger,
KaOz.

No problem at all, I appreciate honesty. Let us know if/how we can help.

Cheers

[mcguyver]

The fellow our local member spoke with was David Thomlinson (sp?) of the NFA. Even a small victory against the Firearms Act in any form by the NFA can only help their cause. I'm not a member, but many around where I live are.

[dead_aim]

i did meet one of them b4..i feel sorry for'em...i wonder if the store is closed down now..i think they knew it was coming...last time i went to buy some metal bushings they took all acessories down..hopefully everything works out..

[RUBBERDUCKEY]

Wow this suxs for the company

[Affliction]

I hate when shit like this happens so close to home. I could walk to Pacific Mall in 5 minutes.
-VM

[RUBBERDUCKEY]

What happens to people who bought guns from them I wonder. Do they get it seized?