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Old August 12th, 2011, 15:39   #46
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Why not take your information in a bit more slowly, read what people are telling you.

Lipos are good, just specific in their application. In short; dont fuck around with your lipos. I.E don't be a cheap fuck.

Batteries get expensive, everything get expensive and if you continue striving to be a cheapass about every little thing you won't get very satisfactory results.

Spend money on GOOD lipos, GOOD chargers and PROPER means to take care of them. Otherwise you're going to continually spend your little sums on substandard batteries and outweigh the cost for something that'd actually last you a while.

25 dollars for a standard battery isn't much. You spend 20 bucks for 4000 Bb's that only last a while, I wouldn't imagine you to buy cheap, crappy .12g bb's by bulk simply because they are lower cost and 'do the same thing'.

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Old August 12th, 2011, 16:04   #47
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I'll admit u made a very good point Strelok. I do use good quality bb's just to clear that up but u gotta take in that i was just asking in the first place if the batteries were good. Also I am willing to spend the money i was just seeing if i could get a good deal. I am getting a good battery now but can anyone answer how to tell a battery has good amperage? Cause my 1100 MaH battery right now has the ROF of a freakin 7.2v. I also have a large type 8.4v that dont use anymore and it fires like an 8.4v. Anyone able to help with this.
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Old August 12th, 2011, 16:32   #48
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I am getting a good battery now but can anyone answer how to tell a battery has good amperage? Cause my 1100 MaH battery right now has the ROF of a freakin 7.2v. I also have a large type 8.4v that dont use anymore and it fires like an 8.4v. Anyone able to help with this.
To put it simply;

MaH = how long it will last. has nothing to do with rate of fire

Batteries come in different voltages(7.4v lipo, 8.4v nimh, 9.4v nimh, 11.1v lipo) with different discharges(15c and 20c average), both of these have everything to do with rof.

The more voltage and discharge, the higher the ROF and chance of it killing your gun.
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Old August 12th, 2011, 16:45   #49
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yes ik that MaH means how long it will last but im saying. I have 2 8.4v batteries, but the small type with 1100mah has the ROF of a 7.2v while my large type which is still 8.4v has a higher ROF but there both the same voltage. I don't understand that part at all.
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Old August 12th, 2011, 16:50   #50
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yes ik that MaH means how long it will last but im saying. I have 2 8.4v batteries, but the small type with 1100mah has the ROF of a 7.2v while my large type which is still 8.4v has a higher ROF but there both the same voltage. I don't understand that part at all.
I would assume the discharge on the them are different, one being 15c and the other being 20c, it should say on the label.
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Old August 12th, 2011, 17:06   #51
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both dont say anything about a discharge rate so i just dont know then.
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Old August 12th, 2011, 18:30   #52
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he's talking NiMh batteries Icarus, not lipos... I'm no expert on figuring out battery perfomance, I if I remember correctly, battery university has a nice write up on what all the numbers mean.
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Old August 12th, 2011, 20:28   #53
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My bad, I was under the impression nimh had a discharge rating, never used one, only lipos ><
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Old August 12th, 2011, 20:35   #54
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Well, they *do* have a discharge rate as it's a physical/chemical property that all battery have, but it's indeed never stated (to mu knowledge at least) on NiMh batts...

To OP: you say your mini has the ROF of a 7.2.. That means nothing in itself; as you saw yourself, different batteries of the same voltage will yield different ROF (but will generally will play in the same ballpark)

The reason your mini as a lower ROF than your other 8.4v, is because it has a lower discharge rate; why? Because the cells are smaller, as simple as that.

The more surface area a battery have, the higher the discharge rate.

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I don't claim to be specially kbowledgeable in batteries, it's what I learned/understand. I might be wrong on some point, but unless someone proves me wrong I think I do understand all this correctly.
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Old August 13th, 2011, 12:33   #55
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Are all small type 8.4v batteries like this or what?
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Old August 26th, 2011, 04:21   #56
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Are all small type 8.4v batteries like this or what?
Yes. A small cell 8.4v battery will not perform as well as a large cell one. Same goes with 9.6v batteries. In fact, a large cell 8.4v battery will generally outperform small cell ones.
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Old August 27th, 2011, 01:45   #57
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yeah MAH in lipos doesn't mean a hell of alot other then how long they can go ... their discharge rates are seperate (the C rating)

MAH with NIMH and nicad batteries is not only their capacity.. but also their discharge ability ... so a 3300 will not only last longer then a 1100 .. but it'll also be capable of throwing more amperage (around 3x's )
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Old August 31st, 2011, 21:19   #58
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If your 8.4 is running like a 7.2, it probably IS running at 7.2. Using shitty chargers kills batteries and their voltage. I've had at least 3 batteries do that because I was a cheap ass and kept using chargers that came with guns.

From what I have seen the size of the cells shouldn't matter.
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