HK 417

Lakonian · September 2nd, 2008, 17:40

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Originally Posted by Mr.Hitman

If that's the G&P, expect to pay up to 1000 for the body alone.

Juggelz talked me out of it a year or two back.... lol

wildcard · September 2nd, 2008, 17:47

My version of the HK417 are basicly a G&P SR25 with a Hurricane 416 Stock, PSG style grips from KA, I tried putting a 416 front(JG) it looked like an ugly bastard so kept the SR front and currently in the look out for a HK front sights to make it closer to a 417 other than that you will have a hard time finding parts that fit or you could always resort to one off custom job that cost more than the real steel counterparts.
in any case good luck with your build.

Lakonian · September 2nd, 2008, 17:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by wildcard

My version of the HK417 are basicly a G&P SR25 with a Hurricane 416 Stock, PSG style grips from KA, I tried putting a 416 front(JG) it looked like an ugly bastard so kept the SR front and currently in the look out for a HK front sights to make it closer to a 417 other than that you will have a hard time finding parts that fit or you could always resort to one off custom job that cost more than the real steel counterparts.
in any case good luck with your build.

Buy a KA MRF... It's the closest thing to what you're looking for....

bodydropper · September 2nd, 2008, 17:52

nice one! good luck with that and send some more pics.

attack-beaver · September 2nd, 2008, 18:42

the first version of the 417 used g3 mags same shit mighy be easier

Shirley · September 2nd, 2008, 19:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by kos

If that's the G&P, expect to pay up to 1000 for the body alone.

Juggelz talked me out of it a year or two back.... lol

Yes it is. It's a nice body too.

wildcard · September 2nd, 2008, 20:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by kos

Buy a KA MRF... It's the closest thing to what you're looking for....

The G&P SR25 URX (the one I own) have something similar so after trying the JG I decided to leave the original back on as they are the closest thing to the 417 look

Communist · September 2nd, 2008, 21:03

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Originally Posted by attack-beaver

the first version of the 417 used g3 mags same shit mighy be easier

The G3 magazines are a different size from the M4s unfortunately.

There's a magwell conversion kit for the G36 to use M4 mags, but I've e-mailed the makers to see if they plan to produce any for other models, such as the M4.

Styrak · September 2nd, 2008, 21:05

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Originally Posted by Communist

The G3 magazines are a different size from the M4s unfortunately.

That's kinda the idea. The G3 fires 7.62. The M4 does not.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Communist

There's a magwell conversion kit for the G36 to use M4 mags, but I've e-mailed the makers to see if they plan to produce any for other models, such as the M4.

Hunh? To convert an M4 to use G36 mags? Why would anyone want to do that?

Danke · September 2nd, 2008, 21:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by Styrak

That's kinda the idea. The G3 fires 7.62. The M4 does not.

Hunh? To convert an M4 to use G36 mags? Why would anyone want to do that?

I converted a 416 to take M4 mags, does that count?

Styrak · September 2nd, 2008, 21:19

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Originally Posted by Danke

I converted a 416 to take M4 mags, does that count?

Lulz.
It would be more productive.

Dusti69 · September 3rd, 2008, 02:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by Communist

The G3 magazines are a different size from the M4s unfortunately.

There's a magwell conversion kit for the G36 to use M4 mags, but I've e-mailed the makers to see if they plan to produce any for other models, such as the M4.

strange how you can tell that but you cant tell the difference between a g36 and an m4 mag

Quote:

Originally Posted by Styrak

Hunh? To convert an M4 to use G36 mags? Why would anyone want to do that?

i dont think it would even be possible. the m mag conversion for a g36 is just a dif magwell cuz its magwell is removable. an m4's is not. theyd have to make an entirely different lower

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danke

I converted a 416 to take M4 mags, does that count?

youre joking right? my 416 takes all my m4 mags

Styrak · September 3rd, 2008, 02:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dusti69

youre joking right? my 416 takes all my m4 mags

*whooooosh*

Drake · September 3rd, 2008, 02:57

This thread is just facepalm after facepalm.

@Communist: You seem to not be grasping -- and not because many people haven't tried explaining this already -- that the HK417 is chambered for 7.62x51mm.

HK417: 7.62x51mm
G3: 7.62x51mm

HK416: 5.56x45mm
G36: 5.56x45mm
M4: 5.56x45mm

7.62x51 on the left, 5.56x45 on the right (forget the middle one):

The first thing you may have noticed is they're very shiny. You may also have noticed 7.62x51 is a lot bigger.

This is why people are trying to tell you you need to modify the receiver to make it longer, or use an SR25 receiver, and why you need to use the larger G3 mags and that G36 or SIG552 mags won't do, or that M4 receivers won't do. Get it? If you're building an HK417 but it's using 5.56x45 mags then its an HK416. The WHOLE POINT of the HK417 is that it's chambered to 7.62x51. It's like a KAC SR-15 vs SR-25.

Aaargh! /facepalm

Dusti69 · September 3rd, 2008, 03:11

do the real steel bullet sizes even matter really when it comes to airsoft? airsoft mags are just the size they are without any bullets in them so id think the size of the mag itself would be what made the difference but i guess the bullet sizes tell you relative mag size differences

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September 3rd, 2008, 02:57	#59
Drake E-01 Trader rating Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Montreal, QC	This thread is just facepalm after facepalm. @Communist: You seem to not be grasping -- and not because many people haven't tried explaining this already -- that the HK417 is chambered for 7.62x51mm. HK417: 7.62x51mm G3: 7.62x51mm HK416: 5.56x45mm G36: 5.56x45mm M4: 5.56x45mm 7.62x51 on the left, 5.56x45 on the right (forget the middle one): The first thing you may have noticed is they're very shiny. You may also have noticed 7.62x51 is a lot bigger. This is why people are trying to tell you you need to modify the receiver to make it longer, or use an SR25 receiver, and why you need to use the larger G3 mags and that G36 or SIG552 mags won't do, or that M4 receivers won't do. Get it? If you're building an HK417 but it's using 5.56x45 mags then its an HK416. The WHOLE POINT of the HK417 is that it's chambered to 7.62x51. It's like a KAC SR-15 vs SR-25. Aaargh! /facepalm __________________

September 2nd, 2008, 17:47	#47
wildcard Trader rating Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: In my man cave	My version of the HK417 are basicly a G&P SR25 with a Hurricane 416 Stock, PSG style grips from KA, I tried putting a 416 front(JG) it looked like an ugly bastard so kept the SR front and currently in the look out for a HK front sights to make it closer to a 417 other than that you will have a hard time finding parts that fit or you could always resort to one off custom job that cost more than the real steel counterparts. in any case good luck with your build.

September 2nd, 2008, 17:52	#49
bodydropper Trader rating Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: close to LCBO in Maple	nice one! good luck with that and send some more pics.

September 2nd, 2008, 18:42	#50
attack-beaver Trader rating Join Date: May 2005 Location: calgary	the first version of the 417 used g3 mags same shit mighy be easier

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