Underage Anything i can do?

[Identity]

Originally Posted by Amazing KG3

no prob, but you make a good point, howd he get the goods?

Me and my father play airsoft, hes not into it as much as I am however. He just plinks around with my GBBs and target practices with his home made target box.
He helped me purchased my G36C and other guns.
Before I got into getting an airsoft gun, I did alot of reading on airsoftcanada which lead today. Now owning my AEG and GBBs. Abiding by the rules and enjoying the sport.

Unversity tuition is going to set me back in airsoft since, I have to save my money for transport, tution, books, and food.

[thephenom]

Originally Posted by Identity

Me and my father play airsoft, hes not into it as much as I am however. He just plinks around with my GBBs and target practices with his home made target box.
He helped me purchased my G36C and other guns.
Before I got into getting an airsoft gun, I did alot of reading on airsoftcanada which lead today. Now owning my AEG and GBBs. Abiding by the rules and enjoying the sport.

Unversity tuition is going to set me back in airsoft since, I have to save my money for transport, tution, books, and food.

Does your dad supervise you when you shoot? If not, you have mistaking the word ABIDING with IGNORING or BYPASSING. Just because your father plinks around in the basement doesn't make him "into" airsoft. There would be a lot of airsoft players if a person just hold/touch or fire off a few BBs.

Not trying to be anal about this, but don't claim you have READ and FOLLOWED all the rules when in reality you just stepped all over them. It's one thing to not know the rules, it's another knowing and breaking the rules.

[Identity]

No my dad does not supervise me however, he understands and knows I am responsible enough to not do anything stupid. Come on phenom. Im 1 year away from being 18 and buying my own airsoft gun, cut me some slack.

He purchased all the airsoft guns for me. Second of all, I've been here for awhile now, and I understand the MAIN rules. I have not seen the rule that a minor/underage must be supervised when firing an airsoft weapon.

You are being anal about this situation. 1 more year and I can buy my own airsoft gun. The age diffrence between a 17-year old/18 year old isn't much. I believe that I am responsible and mature enough to understand general rules when handling airsoft, and related weapons.

I understand the seriousness and concequences.

And for the record I am not a hot headed teenager. I try to speak as normal and proper as I can.

[Amazing KG3]

He is right, where does say you have to be of age to own or operate one. It just says in our rules that you have to be 18 to buy or most of the time field one.

[Greylocks]

You dont have to be of age to operate one, you have to be of age to OWN one. What does that mean legally? Just like a real gun, you can only loan it out under direct supervision.
So the user of the moment can be of any age, but you, the owner, must be present.
If not, you, the owner, is breaking the law.
Many dont care, or dont know better. If the authorities ever check, the parent is in deep crap.
That's how it works.

[thephenom]

Originally Posted by Amazing KG3

He is right, where does say you have to be of age to own or operate one. It just says in our rules that you have to be 18 to buy or most of the time field one.

Ummm....first, those aren't OUR rules....it's the Canadian LAW. It's very similar to the laws on alcohol, you can't buy until you're 19, you can only consume at home WITH your parents/guardian's direct supervision. Just because one feel mature enough to drink at 17, it doesn't mean they can bypass the law to ask his/her parents to buy booze and drink by him/herself or with friends.

These are kind of the ignorancy we get here at ASC. Every teenager that comes here asking to buy airsoft or softair all starts off as "mature", then wham, an angry teenager suddenly jumps out of nowhere. Quite simple, Indentity, you knew the rules/laws or at least you pretended you have read them, and you just stepped all over them. I'm not saying you don't behave in a mature manner, but the fact you ignored the rules does show some immaturity.

And a lot of people would agree here, 17 and 18 makes a huge difference. That one year means you take PERSONAL responsibility for your actions, not your dad, not anyone else.




P.S. I saw greylocks as last reply, but his msg is nowhere to be found....

[Kid]

Originally Posted by thephenom

P.S. I saw greylocks as last reply, but his msg is nowhere to be found....

You too?

I can't see any of his messages at all, or threads. Just that he last posted, then nothing.

[Sgt_Lynch]

OK MODS:

I propose an alteration to the Rules of this board:
Anyone soliciting information on the procurement of Airsoft while underage, or other illegal activities (conversion of realsteel to Airsoft or vice versa etc) be banned. End of story.

I've had it with dweebs comming on here and arguing the rules the community has made to protect itself like they are special, or have a right to do so. Like WTF? I don't give a rats ass about some fool's mother's cousin 3-times-removed who got a Airsoft from his Dad... live by the rules we set out, read the friggin FAQ, and live with it or leave. It's not a debatable topic.

Originally Posted by Sgt_Lynch

OK MODS:

I propose an alteration to the Rules of this board:
Anyone soliciting information on the procurement of Airsoft while underage, or other illegal activities (conversion of realsteel to Airsoft or vice versa etc) be banned. End of story.

I've had it with dweebs comming on here and arguing the rules the community has made to protect itself like they are special, or have a right to do so. Like WTF? I don't give a rats ass about some fool's mother's cousin 3-times-removed who got a Airsoft from his Dad... live by the rules we set out, read the friggin FAQ, and live with it or leave. It's not a debatable topic.

I second that.

Far as I am concerned, the only time a minor should have a gun is when they earn the respect of a well established, age verified member and buys through them...and the member that buys it for the minor is fully and 100% responsible for the gun and anything that happens from it.

I have proposed to the other age verifiers that when a minor bypasses our rules, that they be banned and refused age verification when they turn 18...We blacklist them and notify retailers and other forums.

[Mapcinq]

I can't see any of Greylocks posts in any threads either, Hmmmmm....

[Greylocks]

100% agreement with Lynch. This is not a democracy, and airsoft is a privilege with Laws attached.
Folks who are not old, or mature, enough to understand the concept do not deserve the privilege.
Parents who are too dumb to know better should not have access to them either.

And why are my posts invisible? If they are being auto-deleted, nobody bothered to tell me why. At the very least, I hope I'd get a warning or something.

[Mapcinq]

It just said he posted again and I cant see it....
Who else is having this problem?

Originally Posted by mapcinq

I can't see any of Greylocks posts in any threads either, Hmmmmm....

its not just greylocks, anytime I see a post by Pliskin, its never actually there. It did it for me yesterday, I had posted, and refreshed the asc main page and it showed me as the last poster, but when i checked the thread, I had not posted.

[Skruface]

Originally Posted by Sgt_Lynch

OK MODS:

I propose an alteration to the Rules of this board:
Anyone soliciting information on the procurement of Airsoft while underage, or other illegal activities (conversion of realsteel to Airsoft or vice versa etc) be banned. End of story.

I've had it with dweebs comming on here and arguing the rules the community has made to protect itself like they are special, or have a right to do so. Like WTF? I don't give a rats ass about some fool's mother's cousin 3-times-removed who got a Airsoft from his Dad... live by the rules we set out, read the friggin FAQ, and live with it or leave. It's not a debatable topic.

+1. Ban 'em all and let God(s)/(esses)/Flying Spaghetti Monsters sort 'em out.

[Sgt_Lynch]

I'll say this and shut up:

I've been very restrained in posting the last while because I found what I was saying wasn't constructive or benefiting anyone. But, lately it seems ASC has an influx of minors outright slapping the community in the face and testing our hospitality. and I'm honestly offended by the whole deal.

This thread is a perfect example. The author states clearly he knows and understands that we get pissed when minors come on here and ask about the topic created... but he started the thread anyways. It's like: Well, I know I have no right to do this, I know your all going to get mad... but fuck you I'm gonna do it anyways.

If people can't show any respect around here I see no point in tollerating them, or offering them a chance to be apart of this community.

I'm serious. The next moron who comes in here that thinks they can start stepping on everyones nuts should be shown the door. No explanation. Just gone.

/rant
Lynch