Bill C-21 to prohibit airsoft guns in canada

baronsass · February 17th, 2021, 14:47

Just join the CCFR. They're already mounting the largest legal action ever against the gov on behalf of gun-folk. This action - by default - includes airsofters and paintballers who've now -like it or not - been lumped into the firearms community. It's $40 to become a member, and if you're inclined, you can contribute to their legal fund. Creating new/alternate/airsoft specific "movements" will only fragment opposition to this totally idiotic, and I daresay, dictatorial Liberal initiative.

Matula · February 17th, 2021, 15:21

Green Party was not against firearm during the last election. If you check their platform, it was just a simple regulation. Nothing comparable to the Liberal Party.

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Originally Posted by Razer

When the election is called, just make sure you vote for the Conservatives. Liberals/NDP/Bloc/Green all think airsoft is militia training (HOW DARE YOU CALL IT MILSIM?!?) and want to see it all banned.

Matula · February 17th, 2021, 15:22

If you thought it was just to clean a gap. This is the slide shared by Bill Blair during his presentation:

https://pasteboard.co/JOOyDaX.jpg

bobotea · February 17th, 2021, 15:59

for those who dont speak french https://pasteboard.co/JOOMFbQ.png
*auto image translated from Matula's photo above

ripanu1 · February 17th, 2021, 16:04

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Originally Posted by bobotea

why is it up to the players? sure we can send messages to our MP's, I have. But ultimately the businesses are the ones who have the most money and stand the most to lose. We need their help as much as they need ours...

It will take more than the players contacting MPs .The first ones contacting Our MPs should in fact be.1.Retailers 2.Importers 3.field operators. We can't dump this on the players to be the first to contact our MPs. It must be all the businesses first as they are the supply chain.I suggest we all get on board asap or we are done. We need to have a group backed by a couple of lawyers with all Canada's airsofters on board .We need numbers,because a hand full of people will not be enough. I am currently a member and supporter of CCFR and like earlier mentioned ...I suggest as many of you as possible do the same.

666 · February 17th, 2021, 16:41

In order to achieve any results this whole thing has to be well organized by people who already know what they are dealing with. Everyone needs to get together instead of acting on their own. Firearm community already tried to bombard government with emails and petitions. It dont work. We really tried. Now, hopefully we will have more people on board, people who support this non compliance movement. That's worse case result. Country wide peaceful non compliance was the only thing we were left with when it comes to real steel. Just peacefully refuse to surrender out stuff and see what government will do. CCFR came along and decided to fight for our rights.

666 · February 17th, 2021, 17:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by ripanu1

It will take more than the players contacting MPs .The first ones contacting Our MPs should in fact be.1.Retailers 2.Importers 3.field operators. We can't dump this on the players to be the first to contact our MPs. It must be all the businesses first as they are the supply chain.I suggest we all get on board asap or we are done. We need to have a group backed by a couple of lawyers with all Canada's airsofters on board .We need numbers,because a hand full of people will not be enough. I am currently a member and supporter of CCFR and like earlier mentioned ...I suggest as many of you as possible do the same.

Dude, I already said, try emailing them and see what happens because they all got bombarded over the years. I highly suspect emails with anything to do with our current words in them will get filtered out. Somebody tried sending out 2 today. Both bounced back. Politicians get tons of daily emails from gun owners. They just got used to it over the years and took measures.

666 · February 17th, 2021, 17:09

Only way I see it playing out in our favor is to drag law suit until ahole gets unseated during next election and person who is in their mind comes to power. After seeing years of abuse as a firearm/airsoft ower I'm not seeing any future unless it happens.

scottyfox · February 17th, 2021, 18:20

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Originally Posted by bobotea

for those who dont speak french https://pasteboard.co/JOOMFbQ.png

I?m going to call bullshit on this. There is no way that is a GC slide. Replete with grammatical errors and as the completely wrong GC wordmark.
Misinformation helps nobody.

666 · February 17th, 2021, 18:33

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Originally Posted by scottyfox

I?m going to call bullshit on this. There is no way that is a GC slide. Replete with grammatical errors and as the completely wrong GC wordmark.
Misinformation helps nobody.

Pic is not real but intel is 100% is.

Kwokwai · February 17th, 2021, 18:35

Everybody, please read the bill for yourselves here via the English link:
https://www.publicsafety.gc.ca/cnt/c.../index-en.aspx

About 2/3 of the way down it starts talking about replicas here:
https://www.publicsafety.gc.ca/cnt/c...21-en.aspx#s05

666 · February 17th, 2021, 18:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kwokwai

Everybody, please read the bill for yourselves here via the English link:
https://www.publicsafety.gc.ca/cnt/c.../index-en.aspx

About 2/3 of the way down it starts talking about replicas here:
https://www.publicsafety.gc.ca/cnt/c...21-en.aspx#s05

Did. Trying to say what?

666 · February 17th, 2021, 18:49

By publicly posting some ideas are not not giving them a get out of jail free card. Your are giving government another thing to look at.

666 · February 17th, 2021, 18:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kwokwai

Everybody, please read the bill for yourselves here via the English link:
https://www.publicsafety.gc.ca/cnt/c.../index-en.aspx

About 2/3 of the way down it starts talking about replicas here:
https://www.publicsafety.gc.ca/cnt/c...21-en.aspx#s05

By publicly posting some ideas are not not giving them a get out of jail free card. Your are giving government another thing to look at.

Kwokwai · February 17th, 2021, 19:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by 666

By publicly posting some ideas are not not giving them a get out of jail free card. Your are giving government another thing to look at.

666,

sorry, but I don't understand what you're trying to say.

I'm addressing scottyfox's post as he had noted his skepticism about the contents of the earlier post so I was pointing him to read what's been posted directly.

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February 17th, 2021, 15:22	#33
Matula formerly sammer Trader rating Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Montreal/Ottawa	If you thought it was just to clean a gap. This is the slide shared by Bill Blair during his presentation: https://pasteboard.co/JOOyDaX.jpg __________________ Proud to be Alsatian https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ak2OsQMcTEQ

February 17th, 2021, 15:59	#34
bobotea Trader rating Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: BC, Canada	for those who dont speak french https://pasteboard.co/JOOMFbQ.png auto image translated from Matula's photo above Last edited by bobotea; February 17th, 2021 at 21:46..*

February 17th, 2021, 16:41	#36
666 Trader rating Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Toronto, Ontario	In order to achieve any results this whole thing has to be well organized by people who already know what they are dealing with. Everyone needs to get together instead of acting on their own. Firearm community already tried to bombard government with emails and petitions. It dont work. We really tried. Now, hopefully we will have more people on board, people who support this non compliance movement. That's worse case result. Country wide peaceful non compliance was the only thing we were left with when it comes to real steel. Just peacefully refuse to surrender out stuff and see what government will do. CCFR came along and decided to fight for our rights. __________________ Op Woodsman. Biggest WW2 event in Ontario. Last edited by 666; February 17th, 2021 at 16:45..

February 17th, 2021, 14:47	#31
baronsass Trader rating Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Calgary	Just join the CCFR. They're already mounting the largest legal action ever against the gov on behalf of gun-folk. This action - by default - includes airsofters and paintballers who've now -like it or not - been lumped into the firearms community. It's $40 to become a member, and if you're inclined, you can contribute to their legal fund. Creating new/alternate/airsoft specific "movements" will only fragment opposition to this totally idiotic, and I daresay, dictatorial Liberal initiative.

February 17th, 2021, 17:09	#38
666 Trader rating Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Toronto, Ontario	Only way I see it playing out in our favor is to drag law suit until ahole gets unseated during next election and person who is in their mind comes to power. After seeing years of abuse as a firearm/airsoft ower I'm not seeing any future unless it happens. __________________ Op Woodsman. Biggest WW2 event in Ontario. Last edited by 666; February 17th, 2021 at 17:12..

February 17th, 2021, 18:35	#41
Kwokwai Trader rating Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Mississauga, ON	Everybody, please read the bill for yourselves here via the English link: https://www.publicsafety.gc.ca/cnt/c.../index-en.aspx About 2/3 of the way down it starts talking about replicas here: https://www.publicsafety.gc.ca/cnt/c...21-en.aspx#s05

February 17th, 2021, 18:49	#43
666 Trader rating Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Toronto, Ontario	By publicly posting some ideas are not not giving them a get out of jail free card. Your are giving government another thing to look at. __________________ Op Woodsman. Biggest WW2 event in Ontario.

Bill C-21 to prohibit airsoft guns in canada

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