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Old December 26th, 2009, 19:30   #16
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As long as the plate carrier is empty its fine
But they're not going to open up a suppressor to see if it's real or not, and there's nothing to stop someone from ordering real baffles separately and putting them in after
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Old December 26th, 2009, 19:52   #17
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Alright thanks for the clarification. In regards to the suppressor restrictions, it's a good thing the average person doesn't have access to the means to make steel cylinders. Wait...
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Old December 26th, 2009, 22:22   #18
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It's important to note, body ARMOR is restricted
A plate carrier isn't body armor, it's just a pocket with MOLLE all over it
Customs got wise about the real ACU OTV's Ducky and I ordered (before the ACU ban), he just had to go and sign for them, they just wanted to know why he wanted to import a pocket. All he had to do was explain that there was no ballistic protection in the cover itself
My team's multicam plate carriers are all built with simulated soft armor inserts (closed cell foam), we've ordered 4 or 5 individually and customs never opened any packages

The restriction on importing body armor is more for actual non-MOLLE kevlar vests, like level II/IIA, level III/IIIA, and SAPI plates too
Essentially, the government doesn't want Joe Shmoe to have any armor that would otherwise prevent a police officer from killing him
ACU Ban????
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Old December 26th, 2009, 22:51   #19
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ACU Ban????
ACU pattern stuff (only issued or all?) is export restricted from the United States now.
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Old December 27th, 2009, 00:32   #20
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It's important to note, body ARMOR is restricted
A plate carrier isn't body armor, it's just a pocket with MOLLE all over it
Customs got wise about the real ACU OTV's Ducky and I ordered (before the ACU ban), he just had to go and sign for them, they just wanted to know why he wanted to import a pocket. All he had to do was explain that there was no ballistic protection in the cover itself
My team's multicam plate carriers are all built with simulated soft armor inserts (closed cell foam), we've ordered 4 or 5 individually and customs never opened any packages

The restriction on importing body armor is more for actual non-MOLLE kevlar vests, like level II/IIA, level III/IIIA, and SAPI plates too
Essentially, the government doesn't want Joe Shmoe to have any armor that would otherwise prevent a police officer from killing him
Had you been falsely indoctrinated by the liebral? (liberals) You can buy body armour, the only province that would require a permit is BC, but even that you can own one. Certain companies will not sell to civilians, but thats their choice an example is Blackhawk. Also US will not allow export of ballisitc armour but that DOES NOT mean you cant own one.

Just because US prevent export of foldable stock firearms, does Canadian have to stuck with fixed? NO we still get em, just not directly from US

US prevent export of certain gears, does that mean Canadian can't own one? No we still can.
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Old December 27th, 2009, 01:41   #21
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friend of mine was told he couldn't own level III body armor within city limits
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Old December 27th, 2009, 02:09   #22
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Also US will not allow export of ballisitc armour but that DOES NOT mean you cant own one.
22CFR121.1 Link to the US Munitions List
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Category X--Protective Personnel Equipment and Shelters
(1) Body armor;
(f) The following interpretations explain and amplify the terms used
in this category and throughout this subchapter: (1) The body armor
covered by this category does not include Type 1, Type 2, Type 2a, or
Type 3a as defined by the National Institute of Justice Classification;

Body armor is not export restricted... just most of the 'strong' stuff.


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ACU pattern stuff (only issued or all?) is export restricted from the United States now.
You might want to check up on that. I'm assuming you're going off of tactical tailor and other manufacturers voluntarily not shipping UCP (ACU is the freaken cut of the top, UCP is the pattern of camo) to addresses not in the US. It easily could be set to be controlled... but I've never seen DDTC step in here.

ITAR also restricts plasma cannons above 128 joules of energy (Look it up, 22CFR121.1.II.L.1.I)
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Old January 27th, 2010, 00:30   #23
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Stuff from Israel comes in fine.
You have experience with this? I want to order some SAPI plates from this ebay seller based out of Israel. Has anybody else gotten armor in from Israel okay?
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Old January 27th, 2010, 00:31   #24
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Also, does someone have a link to the law restricting possession of armor in BC?
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Old January 27th, 2010, 07:52   #25
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ACU pattern stuff (only issued or all?) is export restricted from the United States now.
Really, are you sure about that? Any references you can cite? It was my impression that uniform and gear retailers only did it voluntarily, not out of compliance to any export law restricting the export of UCP.

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Old February 5th, 2010, 05:21   #26
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Is kevlar restricted? I was looking at a German Flecktarn Flak Vest that has kevlar inserts. I don't want it for ballistic protection at all really and I'm not keen on playing with fragmentation anything unless I have heavy lexan plate to protect me. I just really like the look and the style and it fits with the German - Modern style setup I wanna do. Also as it seems it will only cost me like $100-120 I'm thinking of ordering a second one later and fitting custom positioned molle straps.

I could take out the kevlar or maybe even order it without the kevlar but I kinda want the extra weight and "padding" effect since I'm prone to ramming into stuff and it would be nice when trying to body check doors or other stuff out of the way.
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Old February 5th, 2010, 12:39   #27
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If you're talking about a Mehler vest or anything currently in use in Bundeswher there's no problem, their gear is one of the most easy to get.
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Old February 5th, 2010, 22:16   #28
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You might want to check up on that. I'm assuming you're going off of tactical tailor and other manufacturers voluntarily not shipping UCP (ACU is the freaken cut of the top, UCP is the pattern of camo) to addresses not in the US. It easily could be set to be controlled... but I've never seen DDTC step in here.
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Really, are you sure about that? Any references you can cite? It was my impression that uniform and gear retailers only did it voluntarily, not out of compliance to any export law restricting the export of UCP.
My bad, I should have noted that I wasn't 100% on that. I was under the impression it was, but I guess it was because of the retailers not shipping it like you guys mentioned. Sorry about that!
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