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Old April 29th, 2009, 23:00   #16
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Zomg.. Can you please tell me where to find those grips? I could definitely go for a pair...
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Old April 29th, 2009, 23:21   #17
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The grips are RS Kimber, I ordered it off their website...it needed some fitting as the grip bushing from Nova doesn't work with Kimber's for some reason. I had to hand chamfer the bushing and the grip for it to sit flush. This is the first set of grip that doesn't fit a Nova that I've encountered....

As for the parts, sure:

TM 1911A1 based
Nova Kimber SWAT Custom II Kit
Nova Kimber Style Grip Safety
Nova Kimber Style Thumb Safety
Nova Mag Catch
Nova Checkered MSH
ProG4 Kimber Trigger
ProG4 Kimber Trigger Loop
ProG4 Slide Catch(to be replaced with a Nova one, I am temperarily using this)
ProG4 Hammer Set
SD Colt .45 Chamber
SD Straight 1911 Outer Barrel
RS Kimber Carbon Fibre Grip
TM MEU Mag.

All other parts are temperarily stock....I forgot a bunch of parts at home in Canada....I am also waiting for a custom made Kimber Pro CDPII upper with barrel, guiderod...etc.
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Old April 30th, 2009, 01:03   #18
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Oh my God, those grips are sexy.
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Old May 1st, 2009, 13:13   #19
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Another gorgeous build RM. I had thought that my 1911 project was complete but now I feel inspired to do more.

The ProG4 Slide Catch almost looks like it has a satin finish in some pictures. Is this just a trick of the light/camera?

Out of curiosity, how does the gas efficiency hold up with the Nova kit? I've found a massive drop in gas efficiency when I put together a Guarder kit with a Marui 1911 base. I assume that the Nova kit is a lighter weight and better finished kit than the Guarder.

I love the evolution of your custom 1911's and I can't wait to see the end state.
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Old May 1st, 2009, 13:37   #21
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btw mine isn't(I've refinished the part, lol)...the slide catch may look funny because the pic was a bit overexposed pre-processed...

The gas consumption sucks. Nova kit if what I've heard is correct, is actually heavier than the guarder because it is a billet machined kit, vs the cast Guarder, the porrosity of the cast metal takes a bit of the weight out. TM 1911 is a questionable design in terms of gas use mainly because of the tiny reservoir vs the double stack BB storage. The additional problem from that is with smaller gas volume the it is much easier to liquify and further ruins it....Its probably reliably 18-20 shot shooter with lock back, but beyond that it gets iffy.

FYI this gun right now is not much of a shooter. Knowing I will be replacing the slide I didn't bother to fit it the same way as I would have for the slide to BBU fit, and the barrel to slide fit. There is some sticktion still and it will likely jam once in a while. The assembled top is basically a placeholder....
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Old May 1st, 2009, 15:44   #22
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ILLusion:
Thanks, I wasn't sure.

RacingManiac:
Well, the satin-like finish in the pictures looks kind of sharp. I have a Shooters Design Hi-Capa 4.3 Slide with a similar looking finish.

I love my 1911 pistols (all four of them) and I curse the fact that they typically will not fire two full magazines worth of bbs on a single gas fill. I usually load my magazines to 20 rounds to ensure consistent lock back even with quick successive shots.

I would still consider a Nova kit for the variety (I am particularly fond of the Kimber Warrior kit they have), but reducing my magazine capacity to below 20 rounds to ensure consistent lock back is not very appealing.

Even if your Kimber project was never meant for performance, it is still one gorgeous pistol. If it will be anything like your previous 1911 project in it's end state, I'm sure it will be another excellent piece for your collection.
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Old May 1st, 2009, 17:20   #23
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I'm able to get a full 26 rounds out of my Nova Kimber Warrior, even with KM high flow valves and it will lock back on the last shot. Guarder oil quenched 150% spring kit installed along with several other internals.

It can keep cycling for even longer, but it won't lock back. I can probably go all the way out to 33 or 34 shots before gas is completely depleted.

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Old May 2nd, 2009, 00:56   #24
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That's excellent to hear ILLusion. Would the Nova Kimber Warrior you speak of be the one in this link?

I'm really curious about this now. Would you say that the Guarder oil quenched 150% spring kit is partially responsible for that? Or is it the combination of the internals you have installed?
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Old May 2nd, 2009, 18:18   #25
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Yes, that's the one. Which reminds me, I gotta take some new photos of it in its current/completed state...

I think it's mostly good fitment of the parts that gets such smooth movement out of it. I had to do a bit of filing to align the parts.

I just installed a Nova MEU kit on an MEU as well and I'm getting even better gas mileage out of it. 38 shots total before the slide wouldn't cycle at all anymore. Stopped locking at the 35th shot. Everything else in the gun is completely bone stock. I only installed whatever the kit came with.
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Old May 2nd, 2009, 19:15   #26
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That is decent gas mileage, 35 shots is definitely acceptable to me. Were you using a slow rate of fire? Were there any other conditions to your tests? What parts specifically did you need to file? I have read (posts by you or RacingManiac) that the BBU requires filing for installation into Nova Kits, I am assuming that you did some filing in spots other than the BBU.

I am pretty jealous of the Nova kits you have so far, the Kimber Warrior and MEU were my first choices. I'm going to have to wait and see those current/completed state pictures of your Kimber Warrior and possibly the MEU if you do a write up on that one as well.

I must say, between the custom 1911's by RacingManiac and yourself, I am going to go poor due to inspiration.
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Old May 2nd, 2009, 19:22   #27
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Yes, slow rate of fire. Between 1 and 3 seconds wait between each shot. Full fill of propane, no rest time between fill and test. All other components in the gun were completely stock. No performance upgrades present.

I had filed the internal rail component that the slide rides on. The fitment to the slide was very tight - seems like the internal width of the rail slots on the slide were a bit narrower than the width of the Marui component it mated to. The metal component that attaches to the back of the slide to cock the hammer also required filing to fit properly. Without filing, it would cause the BBU to sit lower than it should. However, I've noticed that this may be causing an issue with the hammer not getting cocked against the sear properly. It might be fixed by changing the recoil spring to a stronger one - further investigation required. (this test firing was the first time I'd actually test fired the kit after installation, although I've had it installed for several weeks now.)

I will be doing a full write up of all metal MEU kits that I can get my hands on. Consider it to be a head to head comparison / review.
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Old May 2nd, 2009, 20:11   #28
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The shoot speed affects the mileage a lot, as the cool down will happen a lot more shooting faster.....I definitely shoot faster than what ILLusion described when I did most of my shooting.

As for going poor, I am already way over spent on airsoft...lol
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Old May 2nd, 2009, 21:51   #29
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Yes, definitely. I'm sure if I did a full high speed dump, I'd probably only get to around 20 rounds before the mag is tapped out.
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Old May 3rd, 2009, 20:10   #30
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I think I can live with 20 rounds as a minimum. ILLusion, would it be possible for you to list the parts you have installed in your Kimber Warrior?
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