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Old June 17th, 2008, 11:20   #16
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The cycling problem disappeared went it started to empty gas in 2 shot and a half.

I'm gonna check the nozzle tonight to see if there's any crack. If so can I swap it with a TM one?

Dam that suck!, the GBB is brand new and didn't last more than 6 mags. Next GBB is going to be a TM for sure.
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Old June 17th, 2008, 12:05   #17
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You can use the TM nozzle.
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Old June 17th, 2008, 12:36   #18
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I've had my WE 1911 "Combat/Tactical" for a few months now. The gun has never been anything but perfect. I ensure that I clean it after every game, and re-lube the slide where it meets the rails with lithium grease. Since starting to lube the slide rails, I have, more often than not, gotten 2 full mags out of 1 propane fill.

As stated above, ensure the mags are lubed well. Put some in the propane adaptor before filling, put some on the rubber piece at the top of the mag which connects with the gun's internals (forget the name), and push in the nozzle in the back and drop some in there.

I also ordered a third WE mag from eHobby that works flawlessly.

For the price of $220 with 2 mags, and $30 for a third mag, this is a great deal for a propane-ready, all metal gun. Screw TM!

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Old June 17th, 2008, 13:33   #19
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For every happy newb with a WE you
have at least one unhappy owner.

Wouldn't you say that's not a good
ratio?

If you want a cheap display piece,
get a WE. If you want a quality gun
that's proven to perform, get a TM
for the extra money. Upgrades for
a TM slide and breech are available
in CNC'd high quality aluminum.
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Old June 17th, 2008, 14:23   #20
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For every happy newb with a WE you
have at least one unhappy owner.
If TM really were that much more awesome than WE, you wouldn't have to make up unsubstantiated statistics.

The ratio looks to be in favour for WE working to me, not that this is anything remotely close a proper sampling or reliability study.
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Old June 17th, 2008, 14:37   #21
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Haha, Saint... my favorite counter puncher.

TM are simply good guns in stock form. It's
a dead issue to argue otherwise. Currently
I don't own any TM's, all my GBB's are FMU
Western Arms I recommend TM's to new
players, since they are reliable, and if you
want a cheap shelf ornament get a WE. But
if you can afford the best, get a pro built
all CNC alu WA.

I've compared the inner materials used on
WE, TM and WA's and WE's are not very good.
There are obvious design flaws as well. Some
parts that should be 1-piece or metal are not
on the WE...
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Old June 17th, 2008, 14:38   #22
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Please stick to the subject. Maybe I shouldn't have put my feels on my last posst. But I was a bit frustrated that something new didn't work.

Went home at lunch time and check the nozzle and it seem fine (no bend) It does stick a bit in the hop chamber when I move it ( When I simulate the blowback action with my hand). But it end up getting out.

I''l test the new mag as soon as I get it. Fist with green gas (or whatever gas that my brother use in is TM) and then with propane.

Thanks for your help so far
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Old June 17th, 2008, 15:20   #23
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Bastard. I'll see you on sunday. Remember I aim for the crotch.

TM's are different than WE's Tys. Check the plastic block where
the recoil unit sits. WE use a square piece of plastic on most of
their models (sux). That part on their HiCaps is prone to getting
deformed and letting the recoil parts slide back and up, getting
them stuck.
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Old June 17th, 2008, 18:18   #24
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Old June 17th, 2008, 18:21   #25
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Bastard. I'll see you on sunday. Remember I aim for the crotch.

TM's are different than WE's Tys. Check the plastic block where
the recoil unit sits. WE use a square piece of plastic on most of
their models (sux). That part on their HiCaps is prone to getting
deformed and letting the recoil parts slide back and up, getting
them stuck.
Do the TM replacements fit nicely to the WE?
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Old June 17th, 2008, 20:39   #26
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Not all the parts are the same, like I
mentioned before the WE guns are
not exact copies of TM's. The internals
have variations, and in some cases
completely different designs.
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Old June 17th, 2008, 22:28   #27
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Please stick to the subject. Maybe I shouldn't have put my feels on my last posst. But I was a bit frustrated that something new didn't work.

Went home at lunch time and check the nozzle and it seem fine (no bend) It does stick a bit in the hop chamber when I move it ( When I simulate the blowback action with my hand). But it end up getting out.

I''l test the new mag as soon as I get it. Fist with green gas (or whatever gas that my brother use in is TM) and then with propane.

Thanks for your help so far
Just a heads up that Green Gas = Propane. I assume your brother uses Duster in his TM unless he's got a metal slide.

I own a WE 1911, and I've put about 500 rounds through it. Every single problem I've had with it thus far has been magazine related. Take VERY good care of your mags. Don't do anything like oh, I dunno...drop them down the stairs at the Mill. Twice. *bang head*
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