a red tape free source of m203's and other grenade launchers?

[ThunderCactus]

Originally Posted by Styrak

M203's and shells are STILL restricted items people.

He obviously means through an importer.
And airsoft guns ARE NOT REPLICAS, they are airsoft guns, plain and simple.
Regardless you can't import a 203 by yourself since it's pretty well an EXACT copy of the real steel version, save perhaps the firing pin but it's close enough for concern.

[Styrak]

Yeah, doesn't matter to CBSA.

[kmsakura]

aren't all types of mp5's also restricted items? as well as the psg1 and a bunch of other military/law enforcement weapons?

[Styrak]

ALL airsoft guns are illegal for import.

http://airsoftcanada.com/showthread.php?t=40318

Go read up.

[kmsakura]

lol iv read it, i know there all illegal to import i thought you were implying they were illegal to own, which would be really disappointing.

[Styrak]

Well technically they are....sort of. For some people. Some of the time.
But nobody cares if you actually own them. Importing them is the big thing.

[kmsakura]

thank for clearing that up for me, the laws are really confusing and vague, but i guess in some ways that works to our advantage.

[surebet]

M203 impossible to find in Canada...? Uh, you might want to check with Mark, even at his monopoly high prices I was able to get a RIS M203 in at about 300$, most version being worth less.

[kmsakura]

iv heard g&p grenade launchers are very solid, but i haven't heard much about any other brands. i suppose those are the ones id go with if i ever have the money to spare.

[Cassius]

The only one I want is an EGLM.

I'm curious about one thing; the Madbull XM203 BB launcher. This thing has no real steel counter-part so in a way it's not a replica and therefore we could import them, right?

[ThunderCactus]

NO lol
CBSA doesn't care if its a real weapon or not, if it LOOKS like it can kill people it's illegal to them!

[The Saint]

Originally Posted by ThunderCactus

And airsoft guns ARE NOT REPLICAS, they are airsoft guns, plain and simple.

I assure you, airsoft guns are replica firearms, despite what your personal beliefs might be.

Regardless you can't import a 203 by yourself since it's pretty well an EXACT copy of the real steel version, save perhaps the firing pin but it's close enough for concern.

But they're not made to survive firing actual grenades, which makes them an imitation rather than the genuine article, especially when they're basic.

Here's the actual problem with importing grenade launchers: there's been a fairly recent effort by TPTB (CFC?) to reclassify grenade launchers as either restricted or prohibited firearm, can't remember which. There's a couple threads on it over at CGN.

Under previous classification, they were not firearms because they were classified under explosive devices and accessories. As a part of that previous classification, one could argue that airsoft grenade launchers were not prohibited devices because they were not replica firearms, and no law said replica explosive devices were prohibited devices and/or illegal to transfer and own. It's likely the CBSA would attempt to detain the devices anyways, but they'd do that for a lot of things and at least you have a fair legal position to get it back. However, people did not generally challenge CBSA or fate on that subject.

If the reclassification has happen (don't know if it has) and grenade launchers are now considered restriction or prohibited firearm, then an airsoft grenade launcher would be a replica firearm and subject to the same import and transfer prohibitions as regular airsoft guns.

[ThunderCactus]

Didn't someone make a huge post on the legalities on that? Just because CBSA says it's a replica, doesn't mean that it's actually a replica.
That's like having them classify fruit cake as edible.

[The Saint]

Originally Posted by ThunderCactus

Didn't someone make a huge post on the legalities on that? Just because CBSA says it's a replica, doesn't mean that it's actually a replica.
That's like having them classify fruit cake as edible.

Yeah, but they were wrong. The definition of replica firearms is quite clear, anything that's explicitly made to and does look like real guns. When the CBSA say airsoft guns are replica firearms, it's because 99.9% of airsoft guns are replica firearm. They do not need to separatly classify every single individual model from every single airsoft manufacturer to deem airsoft guns that look like real guns as replica firearms. It's the same way that they don't need to separately classify every individual model from ever single automobile manufacturer to deem cars that fit the definition of cars as cars.

[mcguyver]

The CFC classified launchers (whether you call them "flare" or "grenade", 37mm or 40mm makes no difference) as restricted firearms, requiring registration last year. If it's legally called a firearm now, then it's replica is a prohibited device.

There's a few threads on it over on CGN, and I made one here last year on that issue.

http://www.airsoftcanada.com/showthr...highlight=m203