GBB Riffles why not?

Styrak · October 5th, 2007, 16:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by hattrick

I recently found a video of the Y-E mp5 being able to fire after a guy jumps into his swimming pool with it.

www.youtube.com search 'classic airsoft' it'll be there.

I believe that was one of the merits of all classic airsoft, they're water-friendly.

Rumpel Felt · October 5th, 2007, 17:36

I think it's totally possible....ie Maruzen MP5K 50 round mags....and hell, propane is TOO powerfull for that gun.

Remember what would probably suck though....mags would end up weighing MORE than their real versions.

With heaviness comes..recklessness? Think what happens when you drop a GBB mag. Usually something gets destroyed by its own weight.

Cooldown? Probably wouldn't happen with the realistic capacities that would be in place with GBB mags (which would be wonderful) but when you're mag desides to run out of gas in the middle of a firefight, ou're fucked. Even if you can gas it up real quick, you'll get oe or 2 shots off and then out again. Waiting for mags to warm up is a real pain in the ass.

Speaking of cooldown, airosoft in the winter or even the majority of nights in Canada is not going to happen.

I absolutley HATE AEG's....they're fucking lame, they sound liek shit, they are uber troublesome when they fail, they seem to be overengineered (who the hell thought to put a sewing machine inside a gun) and they aren't intimidating at all when used. Not to mention because of all this, so many paintball-esque things like hicaps (why any airsofters uses a replica that rattles I don't know) and inproper firing techniques (I'm no expert but holding a gun by the magwell is not how you do it).

Anyway, GBB SMG's and rifles just wouldn't go down as good as people might think.

Now if I could put into production all these wonderfull (yet surely flawed) ideas I have about a propane combustion rifle....then maybe

But we all have these dreams....
Paintball did propane combustion, surely we could.

ThunderCactus · October 5th, 2007, 17:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rumpel Felt

I absolutley HATE AEG's....they're fucking lame, they sound liek shit, they are uber troublesome when they fail, they seem to be overengineered (who the hell thought to put a sewing machine inside a gun) and they aren't intimidating at all when used. Not to mention because of all this, so many paintball-esque things like hicaps (why any airsofters uses a replica that rattles I don't know) and inproper firing techniques (I'm no expert but holding a gun by the magwell is not how you do it).

I agree that they don't sound intimidating at all
troublesome IF they fail (go prometheus!

)
over engineered? more like UNDER engineered, it's a very simple system made of ALL the wrong metals (pot metal BOOO!)
hi-caps ARE gay, unless its a drum or box, and only on an LMG, those really do rattle. And drums just look stupid on rifles.
And lastly, improper firing techniques piss me off too, but just because your gun is gas powered, it doesn't make you any more aware of what your doing.

Honestly I REALLY like the gas powered guns, they're cool to watch, cool to shoot, the fact you can change their FPS whether your playing indoors or out. The only downside I've seen to them is the hose on the stock. Unless of course you want to pay 200$ a mag.

weslee · October 7th, 2007, 03:42

Tanio Koba is about to release a Diemaco C8 GBB.

Info
http://www.taniokoba.co.jp/m4news0814.html

Video
YouTube - Tanio Koba Gas Blowback M4 Airsoft
YouTube - TANIOKOBA GUSBLOWBACK M4(C8)

Styrak · October 7th, 2007, 03:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rumpel Felt

...and inproper firing techniques (I'm no expert but holding a gun by the magwell is not how you do it)..

Exactly what ThunderCactus said, what does that have to do with the method of propelling the BB?

Rumpel Felt · October 7th, 2007, 04:51

Uh think about it....

Can you hold you GBB by the slide an fire it....NO....(a lame ass AEP yes)

If you've got a bolt with some kick flying around, there won't be any more holding-of-the-mags or firing out of stance.

Styrak · October 7th, 2007, 05:14

It won't have that much kick...
More of just a sound difference.

sanosuke689 · October 7th, 2007, 05:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by Styrak

It won't have that much kick...
More of just a sound difference.

Ha Ha. Try an Escort M60, it's beastly

Styrak · October 7th, 2007, 05:30

Enough that it throws your aim off like a real steel? Not likely.

sanosuke689 · October 7th, 2007, 05:35

haha, I never said it throws your aim off...I just said it was beastly

heh, never said real steel either

Styrak · October 7th, 2007, 05:38

I know I know, but the previous argument would only apply if the gun had real-steel-like recoil.

Rumpel Felt · October 7th, 2007, 06:10

No, it applies, read what I said....

You're going to have to be aware of a moving bolt and ejection port. So you're going to be more likely to hold the gun the way it was meant to be held.

Styrak · October 7th, 2007, 06:11

With a tiny bit of bolt movement? I'd think you could hold the gun any way you want, including sideways with one hand, lol.

ThunderCactus · October 7th, 2007, 10:47

correct me if im wrong, isn't the marushin M2 carbine a GBB of sorts? it's neat in the fact that it has two gas chambers, one for semi auto and one to assist the first in full auto to prevent loss of power. I can't imagine how fast that freezes the mechanism though

Gryphon · October 7th, 2007, 10:53

Escort guns do not have a tiny amount of bolt movement. The recoil IS enough to throw your aim off on full auto slightly. They certainly have more recoil and noise than the TK guns, that's for sure. Look at any Youtube video.

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October 7th, 2007, 05:14	#22
Styrak Trader rating Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Saskatoon, SK	It won't have that much kick... More of just a sound difference. __________________ Airsoft Sales and Repair/Upgrade Services

October 7th, 2007, 05:30	#24
Styrak Trader rating Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Saskatoon, SK	Enough that it throws your aim off like a real steel? Not likely. __________________ Airsoft Sales and Repair/Upgrade Services

October 7th, 2007, 05:38	#26
Styrak Trader rating Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Saskatoon, SK	I know I know, but the previous argument would only apply if the gun had real-steel-like recoil. __________________ Airsoft Sales and Repair/Upgrade Services

October 5th, 2007, 17:36	#17
Rumpel Felt Trader rating Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Kitchener, Ontario	I think it's totally possible....ie Maruzen MP5K 50 round mags....and hell, propane is TOO powerfull for that gun. Remember what would probably suck though....mags would end up weighing MORE than their real versions. With heaviness comes..recklessness? Think what happens when you drop a GBB mag. Usually something gets destroyed by its own weight. Cooldown? Probably wouldn't happen with the realistic capacities that would be in place with GBB mags (which would be wonderful) but when you're mag desides to run out of gas in the middle of a firefight, ou're fucked. Even if you can gas it up real quick, you'll get oe or 2 shots off and then out again. Waiting for mags to warm up is a real pain in the ass. Speaking of cooldown, airosoft in the winter or even the majority of nights in Canada is not going to happen. I absolutley HATE AEG's....they're fucking lame, they sound liek shit, they are uber troublesome when they fail, they seem to be overengineered (who the hell thought to put a sewing machine inside a gun) and they aren't intimidating at all when used. Not to mention because of all this, so many paintball-esque things like hicaps (why any airsofters uses a replica that rattles I don't know) and inproper firing techniques (I'm no expert but holding a gun by the magwell is not how you do it). Anyway, GBB SMG's and rifles just wouldn't go down as good as people might think. Now if I could put into production all these wonderfull (yet surely flawed) ideas I have about a propane combustion rifle....then maybe But we all have these dreams.... Paintball did propane combustion, surely we could.

October 7th, 2007, 03:42	#19
weslee Trader rating Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Vancouver, BC	Tanio Koba is about to release a Diemaco C8 GBB. Info http://www.taniokoba.co.jp/m4news0814.html Video YouTube - Tanio Koba Gas Blowback M4 Airsoft YouTube - TANIOKOBA GUSBLOWBACK M4(C8)

October 7th, 2007, 04:51	#21
Rumpel Felt Trader rating Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Kitchener, Ontario	Uh think about it.... Can you hold you GBB by the slide an fire it....NO....(a lame ass AEP yes) If you've got a bolt with some kick flying around, there won't be any more holding-of-the-mags or firing out of stance.

October 7th, 2007, 05:35	#25
sanosuke689 Trader rating Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: States	haha, I never said it throws your aim off...I just said it was beastly heh, never said real steel either

October 7th, 2007, 06:10	#27
Rumpel Felt Trader rating Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Kitchener, Ontario	No, it applies, read what I said.... You're going to have to be aware of a moving bolt and ejection port. So you're going to be more likely to hold the gun the way it was meant to be held.

October 7th, 2007, 06:11	#28
Styrak Trader rating Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Saskatoon, SK	With a tiny bit of bolt movement? I'd think you could hold the gun any way you want, including sideways with one hand, lol. __________________ Airsoft Sales and Repair/Upgrade Services

October 7th, 2007, 10:47	#29
ThunderCactus Not Eye Safe, Pretty Boy Maximus on the field take his picture! Trader rating Join Date: Feb 2007	correct me if im wrong, isn't the marushin M2 carbine a GBB of sorts? it's neat in the fact that it has two gas chambers, one for semi auto and one to assist the first in full auto to prevent loss of power. I can't imagine how fast that freezes the mechanism though

October 7th, 2007, 10:53	#30
Gryphon Trader rating Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: MB	Escort guns do not have a tiny amount of bolt movement. The recoil IS enough to throw your aim off on full auto slightly. They certainly have more recoil and noise than the TK guns, that's for sure. Look at any Youtube video.

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