LASERS ----------------

[gunscythe]

Originally Posted by Greylocks

And in case someone says 'the cops use it why cant we?' just remember something else; when you are facing a real gun and a real bullet, laser damage is irrelevant.

This is a game, it's not worth any risk to your eyesight (or anything else for that matter).

It is not legal in canada for the cops to use them. Even the special ERT teams are not allowed lasers mounted on their weapons. Police organizations in the country for the most part follow the same rules as we do. The only exception is they have prohibited weapons like MP5's, but even those are restricted to semi-auto.

[ThunderCactus]

well restricting lasers in police forces isnt solely based on what they damage. ever see someone with a laser running through a cloud of dust or a smoke grenade? lasers work both ways. I dont know about everyone else, but lasers and flashlights actually increase my reaction time for shooting lol

[Gryphon]

Originally Posted by gunscythe

It is not legal in canada for the cops to use them. Even the special ERT teams are not allowed lasers mounted on their weapons. Police organizations in the country for the most part follow the same rules as we do. The only exception is they have prohibited weapons like MP5's, but even those are restricted to semi-auto.

The hell are you talking about??

[yanhchan]

Originally Posted by Gryphon

The hell are you talking about??

LOL I love these so called experts!

[Dirty Deeds]

We had a problem with newbs using them to flash people intentionally, so they are now pretty much banned everywhere in Quebec.

[Freedom Fighter]

I always used lasers on my crapalites (and thus have one on the new SR) and although they are not as useful as an RDS perhaps, they are quite nifty (fun) and noone has ever given me shit about using one. I've hosted a number of events and always welcomed, even encouraged the use of all the neat toys such as lasers, night vision, IR etc: They can add to the realism of the game and are quite safe IMO when used by responsible players. If someone is not responsible why the hell are you letting them play airsoft with you anyways? They prove themself otherwise, then they will be pushed out of the sport as so many in the past.

Granted, I'm still of the old fashion mindset of people using common sense.

Originally Posted by Gryphon

Here in Manitoba lasers are allowed at all events, most people only use them indoors at Xtreme Tactics. However due to the fact that there are a ton of cheap-assed lasers coming out of Asia that are FAR beyond eye safe levels, the Manitoba Airsoft Association and Xtreme Tactics are limiting lasers to 5 mW maximum and they MUST be tested when our local laser expert receives his laser power meter.

Reason for the testing? He once bought a green laser that was labelled 5mW 635 nm (which is RED, not green). He got it tested and it was putting out some 50 mW which is TEN TIMES the eye safe limit and extraordinarily dangerous, even from diffuse reflections off dull surfaces! VERY scary.

We are treating this no differently than velocity limits for guns. It is a VERY serious safety issue with people's eyesight on the line. Unlike airsoft guns where an accidental discharge typically only means a welt that will heal up, laser damage to your eyes is PERMANENT.

Now that's being responsible, very well done.

Originally Posted by Greylocks

That is something I cant afford to lose for a game, and I'd sue your ass all the way to hell.

Grey you don't even play so you have nothing to worry about.

[Dirty Deeds]

Originally Posted by Freedom Fighter

I always used lasers on my crapalites (and thus have one on the new SR) and although they are not as useful as an RDS perhaps, they are quite nifty (fun) and noone has ever given me shit about using one. I've hosted a number of events and always welcomed, even encouraged the use of all the neat toys such as lasers, night vision, IR etc: They can add to the realism of the game and are quite safe IMO when used by responsible players. If someone is not responsible why the hell are you letting them play airsoft with you anyways? They prove themself otherwise, then they will be pushed out of the sport as so many in the past.

Granted, I'm still of the old fashion mindset of people using common sense.

I agree with you there.

However, it's a long story, you can actualy see the thread in the Quebec section of ASC. Or when I make it to T.O. this summer for a game or two, I'll tell you about it personally. And come hell or high water, I'll be in T.O. to play this year.