FELIX TACTIK - POOL - Custom BDU and camos

Jackals · February 1st, 2007, 10:35

Terracat all the way Walter. Although, a bit more green like Droc said would be good.

Gryphon · February 1st, 2007, 10:35

I think people are choosing the greener patterns first because of when they'll be released. For the most part we've found that primarily tan and brown patterns such as Multicam and Terracat have nothing to blend in with during the lush summer months, and only become truly effective in the autumn when everything begins changing to those colors. Leafless bushes and trees combined with dead yellow grasses, with the occasional holdout splotch of green, make for a perfect environment for either pattern.

I chose Gaia first because I think it would work best in central Manitoba summer, when the first pattern is set for release. Highland is very nice as well but I feel it's more suited to rockier areas where you're more likely to encounter heavier ground-level shades of brown and grey such as the Canadian Shield or the Rockies. That's not to say we don't have that out here but primarily the prairies are grassland and deciduous woods and I get the impression Highland may work better in coniferous environments.

I'd love to try the Vampire pattern for CQB and outdoor night games.

THE CAT · February 1st, 2007, 11:05

Thanks Gryphon, I love thoses detailed posting. I'll go back to the dev lab an see what I can do with the TerraCat with a little more green in it.

philstructo · February 1st, 2007, 12:01

Gaia Looks Cool

THE CAT · February 1st, 2007, 12:03

Well I tried what Droc said... A blend between HIGHLAND and TERRACAT. I had to do some tweak, but It quite acceptable for a sim. Anyway, here's the new MUDCAT. I put the 2 contenders aside... Tell me what you think.

philstructo · February 1st, 2007, 12:16

I think that stuff is great it looks like its mud and stuff its so real i give it a thumbs up

THE CAT · February 1st, 2007, 12:20

Easier to compare that way...

shadow_matter · February 1st, 2007, 12:36

It looks fantastic, I'm excited to see how it works out in the field. Once the website reopens I'll have to look into it.

Jackals · February 1st, 2007, 17:41

Mudcat is awsome looking.

Metalsynth · February 1st, 2007, 18:37

MUDCAT has gotten my attention, I would have voted for that one instead of highlands.

bloodkoala · February 1st, 2007, 19:34

mudcat seems too much like higland to me, maybe a little less green and slightly more tan

Graham · February 1st, 2007, 21:13

highland, sandstorm or vampire .i voted for highland, as I believe it'd work the best in our playing areas

Gryphon · February 2nd, 2007, 01:10

The Mudcat is an interesting blend of the two, but I'm still a firm believer that camouflage is a lot like guns - you can't get one to do everything. As there are assault rifles, sniper rifles, pistols, etc. camouflage has to be tailored not just to the environment but to the season, because a Manitoba summer looks absolutely nothing like a Manitoba autumn.

Given my experiences in the bush I find that we play in deciduous areas far into the fall season and encounter a significant amount of browns, yellows, and tans, with some areas containing large crops of birch trees with their signature white bark. Personally I feel the Terracat pattern is perfect for this condition as it is, and while the Mudcat does have a good look to it I feel it would be a bit too time-specific in its application. Just as the leaves are turning and beginning to fall you still have green in the bush, but this part of the season passes relatively quickly so theoretically you'd be transitioning from something like Gaia or Highland, to Mudcat, to Terracat in a short period of time, so the cost to "time worn" ratio would be a lot higher than the others. I would prefer to go straight from Gaia/Highland to Terracat myself and avoid an intermediary.

This picture of me at the MAA's FNG Day in October (?) 2006 highlights what our typical autumn looks like, as well as the obvious disadvantage of having a camouflage not tailored to the season. Cool pattern though, eh?

This is of course my personal opinion only, and applicable only to the areas that *I* play in. Others may find Mudcat would work not as an intermediary but as a primary pattern for their fields. However opinions were solicited, so there's mine.

THE CAT · February 2nd, 2007, 11:11

Here... I just put 3 CP Armor on the picture. TerraCat prove to be the most effective.

Gryphon · February 2nd, 2007, 13:29

Cool, just as I suspected. I would really like to go with Gaia for spring/summer, and Terracat for autumn. At the moment my team uses tigerstripe for autumn because it is available locally and works very well.

This also illustrates readily why the first release pattern should NOT be something that is effective mainly during autumn - a season which is more than a half year away - and explains why Gaia and Highland are leading the poll. I'm a little disappointed that Gaia isn't quite neck and neck but I suppose people have already got their CADPATs if they need the lush greens and are yearning for something different.

Unfortunately I suspect most people are voting on the poll based on whatever looks cool rather than viewing it practically in terms of what would be effective at their play fields, and when. I suppose for the moment it's more of a fashion show for a lot of people.

Walter, have you got any estimated price range for a BDU set at all? I'm sure that's been asked and I'm not looking for firm figures, but do you know if it will be like $50 per piece or more like $100 per piece? Or...?

Home	Forums	Register	Gallery	FAQ	Calendar
Retailers	Community	News/Info	International Retailers	IRC	Today's Posts

British Columbia	Alberta
BCAC	EAR
Op-For	JOC
Northern Arms Airsoft	Skunkworx Airsoft
Airsoft Kelowna	RAAT
Prince George Airsoft	Manitoba
Saskatchewan	MAA
SK Airsoft	Ontario
PDW	Airsoft Ottawa
South Sask Mercs	Snow Dragons
Quebec	1st Ranger Platoon
PQAC	Wolfpack Tactical
1st Pathfinders Regiment	TTAC3
Quebec Airsoft
MTX Airsoft	Atlantic
FAQc	Atlantic Airsoft

View Poll Results: Witch one would you like to see first?
NX -Gaia	26	21.49%
NX - Highland	46	38.02%
NX - TerraCat	14	11.57%
NX - Sandstorm	4	3.31%
NX - Concrete	4	3.31%
NX - Vampire	13	10.74%
NX - Squarecity	1	0.83%
I don't like any! Show me more...	1	0.83%
I prefer standard digital patterns...	4	3.31%
I'm a purist... stop that!	8	6.61%
Voters: 121. You may not vote on this poll

February 1st, 2007, 10:35	#16
Jackals Trader rating Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Ottawa. Ontario	Terracat all the way Walter. Although, a bit more green like Droc said would be good. __________________ Ottawa's Local Airsoft Site: www.ottawavalleyairsoft.ca

February 1st, 2007, 12:36	#23
shadow_matter Trader rating Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Kitchener Ontario	It looks fantastic, I'm excited to see how it works out in the field. Once the website reopens I'll have to look into it. __________________ Call sign: Shadow_Matter "I play airsoft, yes yes..."

February 1st, 2007, 10:35	#17
Gryphon Trader rating Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: MB	I think people are choosing the greener patterns first because of when they'll be released. For the most part we've found that primarily tan and brown patterns such as Multicam and Terracat have nothing to blend in with during the lush summer months, and only become truly effective in the autumn when everything begins changing to those colors. Leafless bushes and trees combined with dead yellow grasses, with the occasional holdout splotch of green, make for a perfect environment for either pattern. I chose Gaia first because I think it would work best in central Manitoba summer, when the first pattern is set for release. Highland is very nice as well but I feel it's more suited to rockier areas where you're more likely to encounter heavier ground-level shades of brown and grey such as the Canadian Shield or the Rockies. That's not to say we don't have that out here but primarily the prairies are grassland and deciduous woods and I get the impression Highland may work better in coniferous environments. I'd love to try the Vampire pattern for CQB and outdoor night games.

February 1st, 2007, 11:05	#18
THE CAT Banned Trader rating Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Quebec City	Thanks Gryphon, I love thoses detailed posting. I'll go back to the dev lab an see what I can do with the TerraCat with a little more green in it.

February 1st, 2007, 12:01	#19
philstructo Trader rating Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Edmonton	Gaia Looks Cool

February 1st, 2007, 12:03	#20
THE CAT Banned Trader rating Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Quebec City	Well I tried what Droc said... A blend between HIGHLAND and TERRACAT. I had to do some tweak, but It quite acceptable for a sim. Anyway, here's the new MUDCAT. I put the 2 contenders aside... Tell me what you think.

February 1st, 2007, 12:16	#21
philstructo Trader rating Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Edmonton	I think that stuff is great it looks like its mud and stuff its so real i give it a thumbs up

February 1st, 2007, 12:20	#22
THE CAT Banned Trader rating Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Quebec City	Easier to compare that way...

February 1st, 2007, 17:41	#24
Jackals Trader rating Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Ottawa. Ontario	Mudcat is awsome looking. __________________ Ottawa's Local Airsoft Site: www.ottawavalleyairsoft.ca

February 1st, 2007, 18:37	#25
Metalsynth Trader rating Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Montreal	MUDCAT has gotten my attention, I would have voted for that one instead of highlands. __________________ Certified Level 2 BA Sniper Si ton épée est trop courte, allonge la d'un pas. ( Proverbe Hongrois )

February 1st, 2007, 19:34	#26
bloodkoala Trader rating Join Date: May 2006 Location: california	mudcat seems too much like higland to me, maybe a little less green and slightly more tan

February 1st, 2007, 21:13	#27
Graham Trader rating Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Alberta	highland, sandstorm or vampire .i voted for highland, as I believe it'd work the best in our playing areas __________________ R.A.A.T *http://www.historicalairsoftalberta.ca/*

February 2nd, 2007, 01:10	#28
Gryphon Trader rating Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: MB	The Mudcat is an interesting blend of the two, but I'm still a firm believer that camouflage is a lot like guns - you can't get one to do everything. As there are assault rifles, sniper rifles, pistols, etc. camouflage has to be tailored not just to the environment but to the season, because a Manitoba summer looks absolutely nothing like a Manitoba autumn. Given my experiences in the bush I find that we play in deciduous areas far into the fall season and encounter a significant amount of browns, yellows, and tans, with some areas containing large crops of birch trees with their signature white bark. Personally I feel the Terracat pattern is perfect for this condition as it is, and while the Mudcat does have a good look to it I feel it would be a bit too time-specific in its application. Just as the leaves are turning and beginning to fall you still have green in the bush, but this part of the season passes relatively quickly so theoretically you'd be transitioning from something like Gaia or Highland, to Mudcat, to Terracat in a short period of time, so the cost to "time worn" ratio would be a lot higher than the others. I would prefer to go straight from Gaia/Highland to Terracat myself and avoid an intermediary. This picture of me at the MAA's FNG Day in October (?) 2006 highlights what our typical autumn looks like, as well as the obvious disadvantage of having a camouflage not tailored to the season. Cool pattern though, eh? This is of course my personal opinion only, and applicable only to the areas that I play in. Others may find Mudcat would work not as an intermediary but as a primary pattern for their fields. However opinions were solicited, so there's mine.

February 2nd, 2007, 11:11	#29
THE CAT Banned Trader rating Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Quebec City	Here... I just put 3 CP Armor on the picture. TerraCat prove to be the most effective.

February 2nd, 2007, 13:29	#30
Gryphon Trader rating Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: MB	Cool, just as I suspected. I would really like to go with Gaia for spring/summer, and Terracat for autumn. At the moment my team uses tigerstripe for autumn because it is available locally and works very well. This also illustrates readily why the first release pattern should NOT be something that is effective mainly during autumn - a season which is more than a half year away - and explains why Gaia and Highland are leading the poll. I'm a little disappointed that Gaia isn't quite neck and neck but I suppose people have already got their CADPATs if they need the lush greens and are yearning for something different. Unfortunately I suspect most people are voting on the poll based on whatever looks cool rather than viewing it practically in terms of what would be effective at their play fields, and when. I suppose for the moment it's more of a fashion show for a lot of people. Walter, have you got any estimated price range for a BDU set at all? I'm sure that's been asked and I'm not looking for firm figures, but do you know if it will be like $50 per piece or more like $100 per piece? Or...?

FELIX TACTIK - POOL - Custom BDU and camos

Gear Discussion