Opinions needed for TM SIG Sauer P226 vs TM HI-Capa..

[Gameman]

sorry but one last question i wanna know..

what are my chances of me encounting the o-ring problem if i had to use green gas in the Hi-Capa 5.1..is it as high as a 8 out of 10 hi-capa owners that has had that problem happen when green gas is used and what are the ways i can lower my chance of encountering that problem other than just sticking with 134c gas??

[CDN_Stalker]

Only heard of the 'O-ring' problem when using the higher power gas in hot (+30C)weather, in which case, nothing stopping you from using duster at those temperatures and never having to deal with the problem.

even then, its an easy fix

[CDN_Stalker]

Originally Posted by Droc

even then, its an easy fix

Once YOU learned how to do it, yes. Recall the frustration you went through last summer when it first started happening! Lol

[ILLusion]

And hey, if you happen to blow your o-ring, PM me, I have TONS of aftermarket piston heads to unload!

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[Gameman]

i really don't know how to gun smith if i really happen to blow off the o-ring i will have to go though a really hard hasle..i will just be really really hard for me.

Thx again guys, but juding from CDN_ Stalker, do you mean the o-ring problem is only encounter in places as hot as Hong Kong..and we airsofters in Canada will never have to really worry about that problem?? :???:
You'll make my day if you say YES..and thats like about my only worries by now.

[MadMax]

If you're not interested in doing any gun smithing, stick to pellet guns. Airsoft guns are nice looking models which happen to be able to shoot pellets.

Pellet guns are designed from the ground up to shoot projectiles powerfully and the fact that they bear some resemblance to real arms is that they also shoot stuff.

[CDN_Stalker]

Originally Posted by Gameman

i really don't know how to gun smith if i really happen to blow off the o-ring i will have to go though a really hard hasle..i will just be really really hard for me.

Thx again guys, but juding from CDN_ Stalker, do you mean the o-ring problem is only encounter in places as hot as Hong Kong..and we airsofters in Canada will never have to really worry about that problem?? :???:
You'll make my day if you say YES..and thats like about my only worries by now.

Only experience with Hi Capas blowing their O-rings is what I read on here, and what I've seen Droc go through on hot days with his not shooting properly. He'll fill you in more with info relating to when and how hot he had those problems, and how he fixerd it if he feels like it.

Recall him only wanting to use duster in case he broke his new pride & joy, until he tried propane in his Hi Capa and got a serious hard-on with the kick and performance of it, then said he was never going back to duster and would use propane til his gun broke, then replace the parts with cool upgraded parts after that.

it just blows the oring back, used a small screwdriver to slide it back to poistion and keep on shooting.

[ILLusion]

I had it happen to mine as well, except it blew out on every single shot. My only solution was to replace the o-ring.

It could also have been because I upgraded to a (heavier) metal slide and a stronger recoil spring... it increases blowback speed and kick, but as a result, there's more pressure on the o-ring which is my suspected cause of the o-ring blowout.

[Mysteryfish]

The CP99 compact might make a nice comprimise for you...

[Gameman]

and so is would the newer TM Hi-Capa 4.3 has any problems or will it be a better gun than the 5.1??
i think maybe that would be a chose just at between the 5.1 and 226..
or maybe i should just buy the P226 so i don't have to worry about that o-ring problem.

i'm also interested in upgrading my gun or say smith-ing but cos i'm a newbi to airsoft i'm just acard that if i take my gun apart i would be about to put it back together to work.. i really don't have that confident yet...

[ILLusion]

The 4.3 has a different o-ring/piston head setup and not as prone to blowouts. However, because of the shorter barrel, the velocity will be about the same as a 226 if not less.

Again, if velocity is that important to you, it's not that difficult to upgrade these guns to shoot harder. The Hi-Capa has more upgrading room to play with than the 226.

Hicapa has more of a dangerous pressence...IMHO of course

[Gameman]

thx ILLusion and Droc: you guys are the most helpful fews here :angel:

i gusee i'll just have to go witht he P226 after all these, i do like the Hi-cap 5.1..bigger does mean meaner to me too and i do like the power thing with my guns...i find the Desert Ealge HK is just too big for me, it just looked too much like the toy guns and some those rubber once from the Time Crisis arcade. If it wasn't for the o-ring problem i've discover-ed with the 5.1..
as you ILL said if the 4.3 is just the same as the P226 i would just have to go with the P226 of its better design imo..and its the new-er one from TM ops: now heres hoping new-er means better ops:
the only downside is that i know its a very very weak gun, i hope the blow-back is not bad at all. "fingers cross NOW :rrr: "

one more stupid question i have is, it know the P226 is a double action gun, and will there be any problem if i just play it as a single action gun?? i love to cook my gun with the slide when after i insert the mag.
First shoot be cooked..is cool imo.