Airsoft Innovations impact grenade catches on FIRE!

[FirestormX]

That was pretty cool! As was mentioned, make sure you let AI know. Their commitment to customer satisfaction is top notion. Plus, I imagine that Carl will really get a kick out of it.

[crent]

i have one and not had the chance to use it yet.

just glad nobody was hurt

[N_Force]

I'm wondering if this grenade user manual mention how to use it? Any throwing angle or height restriction? I've never owned any one but just handled and played couple of time during game. It's a heavy weight with rubber covered housing and metal piece on top.

I believe the material design for airsoft GBB gun or device use, must not cause any sparkle when metal to metal contact during blow back action. If not, will catch fire or even explores easily.

On the video, the grenade was thrown to almost 6 feet high and dropped on the concrete floor. I think this incident was causing by the top of the metal part hitting the concrete (concrete could contain with any different materials cause sparkle when having high impact) and the gas released at the same time, this high impact, made sparkle and fired. (That's why I don't like to stand beside aitsofter carrying GBB and smoke at the same time. Something you never know what would happen!) This thread, ppl may talked about how awesome of the fire ball but I think it's time to talk about safety.

I still remember long ago when I was in TTAC, Carl was testing those grenades, we were taught to roll it out and stay low but not throw it high and fall, for safety. Also everyone should know, TTAC is wooden flooring. Now all the arenas are concrete flooring. We should, even must play safe to avoid accident happen. The more safe to handle gas devices, the more fun everyone will has. I wish we all have a safe and fun airsofting environment!

[Sequential]

A clear explanation is that the top part of the nade, is made out of aluminium/steel handle. What happens was that the part striked on the concrete causing it to spark. Then while the gas released on impact, the spark ignited the chambers where the bb's fed out from.

[MaybeStopCalling]

Have we considered some sort of polymer coating on these metal parts? To me it seems like powdercoat or a thick bedliner would reduce the risk of this happening.

[Dynamo]

make the metal parts that are exposed externally out of brass, and you eliminate the chance of a spark.

[Sequential]

Originally Posted by MaybeStopCalling

Have we considered some sort of polymer coating on these metal parts? To me it seems like powdercoat or a thick bedliner would reduce the risk of this happening.

I don't think this has been a common issue yet.
But that being said, further coating the metal parts would be a good idea.

[Foxfels]

After having a day to really ponder what the ignition source for the propane. I've come down to two ideas. First and the obvious, that the tornado's aluminum cap created a spark from possible metal particulate on and around the concrete floor. My second theory...I recall seeing a post by BB basterd showing a competitors brand bb's magnitizizing to an aeg motor due to some kind of metal content in the bb. Its a possibility that a bb with metal content could have caused a spark. But I'd lean more to just a random act of awesomeness...
Just to be clear I do don't fault Airsoft Innovations in there design at all. This was probably an extremely random event. Great product all around...Even on fire!!!

[Kozzie]

Originally Posted by Dynamo

make the metal parts that are exposed externally out of brass, and you eliminate the chance of a spark.

Brass is incredibly soft and perhaps not a great material to use on something designed to be thrown around a lot.

[Solomance]

Tornados come with a rubber bumper on the protruding aluminium stem that holds the pin. On both impact ant timer grenades. Its there for protecting players from getting beaned by hard metal.

Could have been somone who removed the bumper letting the metalic parts connect with the ground.

[McCrea]

Aluminum won't create a spark... so it was probably something on the ground, or in the concrete...Or if the spoon pack was installed, it might be that also...

[Kos-Mos]

Aluminum won't, but the steel spoon for the AI is fixed and can cause that.

Really nice to look at, but yeah safety.

I have been using Tornados for years in places way dirtier/likely to have flammables/ignition sources. Never had any issues.

I think the grenade has nothing to do with it, it's environmental factors, and pretty random. Metalic dust on metal reinforced concrete... hit it with a hammer it will spark... that nade probably did just that.

I think the solution is to play with our gear in bubble wrap so nothing can happen XD
Or maybe a cleanup crew to sweep the floor...

[N_Force]

AI controls quality production that I agree with.

Players control their habit that the way to handle grenades is a must, IMO. Exercise how to roll it out but not throw it out high, it's a game, no need to throw it high, ALWAYS SAFETY FIRST. Understand it was so exciting during gaming but keep safety in mind would even enjoy better!

[Red Dot]

Most players yell frag out and lob them into the area, I've been to games here where literally 20-30 grenades are thrown per game... clearing rooms, down stairwells, never any issues. I agree you shouldn't overhand throw the grenade with force but I always underhand lob the grenade like the player in the video. I think it was an extremely isolated event that we can all go "oooo, ahhh" over but calling for a product redesign or changing the way they are commonly deployed is not necessary.

[RainyEyes]

Originally Posted by Red Dot

I think it was an extremely isolated event that we can all go "oooo, ahhh" over but calling for a product redesign or changing the way they are commonly deployed is not necessary.

I don't know... even if it's 1 in a million... do you want to be that 1 that has to face a simulation grenade being thrown at YOU that accidentally turns into a real-life incendiary grenade? I would actually look to the people at Seige to inspect the spot it was thrown. Maybe there was some kind of foreign metal on the ground it could have made contact with?

In all likelihood, and coincidences aren't that uncommon, a freak accident like this might actually burn a place down ._.