The TM M4 S System.

[quikstrike]

Just thought I'd say something.

I love my s system, it's dam sexy and sturdy to put it into laymens terms. I am very happy with it, havent had problems yet at all, plus all my military friends drool over it because it is exactly the same as a c8 with a sopmod rail.

It is not full metal, but the parts that are plastic like the receiver etc... Has the same feel, texture and look, until you flick it an realize its plastic. It is also very very similar to a real c8 (M4A1) with weight distribution etc... The weight is also almost the same. I'm really happy with mine, it was a good investment.

Well time for me to bust, hopefully I've helped a little bit.

[xplizit]

i just bought an m4-s
and its really sturdy compared to my m4a1 that i had in the past. (sold it to v82slo) and its converted into an M4s now also.
Absolutly love the gun, looking to upgrade it to about 380 FPS and getting a velocity reducer for indoor use... i can't afford an indoor and out door :S
any ideas what i should upgrade?

[dead_aim]

Originally Posted by xplizit

i just bought an m4-s
and its really sturdy compared to my m4a1 that i had in the past. (sold it to v82slo) and its converted into an M4s now also.
Absolutly love the gun, looking to upgrade it to about 380 FPS and getting a velocity reducer for indoor use... i can't afford an indoor and out door :S
any ideas what i should upgrade?

only thing that turned me off is the SIR on it aint FULLY METAL

[thePiRaTE!!]

Originally Posted by dead_aim

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only thing that turned me off is the SIR on it aint FULLY METAL

This is true, but for the price you pay for the TM M4s, its a solid package. The critical stress points and rails are metal. Of course, on a real steel M4 and SIR you need light-weight machined aluminum because the heat the gun generates would melt plastic, but lucky for us in airsoft, thats not the case. Basically, the SIR on TM M4s is strong where it needs to be and doesn't need to worry about melting so it can use cheaper/lighter ABS in the body and metal in connection points and rails, which saves us weight and cost for similar durability and gives us the same effect for a fraction of the price. Having said that, one could always outfit their favourite m4 with an ARMS SIR for the meagre sum of the cost of the gun + 399USD. Plus the rear flip up sight - 99USD. And front flip up sight. And swivel sling mounts.

[Nocturnal]

what the pirate says is sensible. if you want full metal be prepared to pay a hefty price tag. you can get full metal guns nowadays but not all of those from ANY of the other manufacturers work like a dream as any of the TM guns out of the box.

it's really up to you.
I recently got a TM M4 S-System and compared to the other full metal guns i have had in the past, the weight is very much like them.
- DTP metal body M16 w/M5 RAS unit & G&P QD M203 long
- Systema full metal M4 RAS w/ SP M203 long

Full metal body's are lightweight now, it's just the cold touch you get when you feel it that is different. Metal bodies can only take so much stress and depends on what you do with your guns when playing.

Also, you lose the easy take down feature if you switch to a metal body and if you break a tab it is costly to replace the whole body. i hope TM release the M4 S-System body as an aftermarket part so we can replace our bodies if we need to. I'd replace the ones on my other TM M4s if the price is right.

[Nocturnal]

[QUOTE=dead_aim]

Originally Posted by xplizit

only thing that turned me off is the SIR on it aint FULLY METAL

so you do not like the S.I.R. replica then? the real ARMS one isnt full metal as someone already stated.
So I guess you are refering to wanting the M4 body being metal. That is all that really can be changed to metal everything else is already pot metal or aluminum to make your gun full metal.

its around $680 for the TM M4 S-System. you could save for G&G or ICS Armalites that cost around $700-$900 in canada.

though if you aren't someone that knows how to fix your own gun, you may have your gun sitting in the shop for a while if you get a lemon.

[dead_aim]

[QUOTE=nocturnal]

Originally Posted by dead_aim

so you do not like the S.I.R. replica then? the real ARMS one isnt full metal as someone already stated.
So I guess you are refering to wanting the M4 body being metal. That is all that really can be changed to metal everything else is already pot metal or aluminum to make your gun full metal.

its around $680 for the TM M4 S-System. you could save for G&G or ICS Armalites that cost around $700-$900 in canada.

though if you aren't someone that knows how to fix your own gun, you may have your gun sitting in the shop for a while if you get a lemon.

well this is what i want to do...

base G&P m4a1 with samurai SIR

i want it too look like the m4's on socom 3..you seen the poster yet??

[SINN]

Come on Dead_aim, you can hang out with me and the G&P