Tight Bores and Sniping

[slink182]

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What bucking and nub? There are a lot of different buckings and nubs.

[ThunderCactus]

firefly, most airsoft retailers, but they're highly sought after, they're usually out of stock.
Based on real world airsoft experience, it's the consistency of the bore that makes all the difference.
Some pistols are highly accurate out to 200 feet, some long barreled AEGs are not.

And like I said, WEATHER PERMITTING, a GBBR is a better accuracy platform than an AEG.
not a pistol
NOT a gas bolt rifle
not an SMG
a GBBR

There's a lot of physics behind it, but bottom line, you throw .43s in a KJ M4 and it's a ridiculously awesome DMR

[Knocturnal]

Right, so I'll need a bucking depending on my barrel right? (6.01, 6.03, etc...) I found some retailers that have the bucking, but when I try to search for nubs, I come up with nothing found. I've tried going through all hopup categories, and still haven't found a nub on a retail site. Is there a variation to how a nub may be called?

[CDN_Stalker]

Buckings usually come with the associated nub, some real specialty ones can be bought separately. And they aren't barrel ID specific either.....

[ThunderCactus]

no, you'll need a bucking based on the barrel DESIGN (VSR, regular AEG, PTW), and your FPS
low fps = soft rubber
high fps = hard rubber

[L473ncy]

Originally Posted by Stealth

It's actually been long accepted in the BASR world that tightbore barrels increase FPS over a standard bore rifle and that a 6.08mm actually gives better shot-to-shot consistency over a 6.01mm barrel of identical lengths.

Stealth, have you ever heard of the ORGA wide bore barrels? The barrels are really wide, like 6.23mm. That's like .15mm larger than a standard stock TM 6.08. They're made in Japan too so theoretically have high tolerances for the trueness of the barrel. Sounds like a lot of marketing who ha for their descriptions of the benefits and stuff but it might be cool to try out (also apparently due to advertising laws in Japan they can't make super outlandish claims but I'm not sure if this is true or not).

[Ricochet]

Listen to ThunderCactus and CDN_Stalker on this one. They know the sniping game well.

Try a firefly bucking!

As far as barrels go, length can affect your shot. But as to how long versus FPS, rounds, etc has been a very difficult point of contention between airsofters. The most all around stable barrel you can get is the 6.04. If you want to increas your grouping a little, try a 6.03 but go no tighter. After that, you are very realistically only increasing FPS and BB destabilization. Some guns will use a 6.01 well, but I haven't seem many. For a longer range/accuracy, stay between 6.04/6.03.

[CDN_Stalker]

Originally Posted by ThunderCactus

no, you'll need a bucking based on the barrel DESIGN (VSR, regular AEG, PTW), and your FPS
low fps = soft rubber
high fps = hard rubber

Right, I was thinking AEG..... then again my CA M24 uses AEG rubbers.

[wind_comm]

p* engine or hpa-converted bolt-action with an er-hop, an lrb and a 6.03mm inner barrel. it ought to do the trick. super-heavyweight ammo goes without saying, of course.

[Rommen]

I'll just leave this here...

http://socomgear.com/english/index.p...products_id=51



The 8mm bb is whole new world for airsoft snipers

[L473ncy]

8mm BB's aren't a new thing. Marushin was the first to do it (and they're an old school company). Just saying....

[Ricochet]

BB Bastard is posturing to release their new round (if they haven't already). It's a 0.66g round, in 6mm standard BB. That ought to put some holes in stuff.

[CDN_Stalker]

Never liked 8mm rounds, too much air resistance, too large a profile to deal with wind effectively, less mass for the size two (played around with them in a shotgun years ago, the 0.46g felt lighter than the 6mm 0.43g), etc. That rifle as sweet, as it is, only has an effective range of 50m, many 6mm rifles have an effective range past 75m, and will retain more energy too.

[ThunderCactus]

Agreed, 8mm is way too big
maybe if we had 6joule limits, we'd get enough velocity out of them to be of use, but with the size of the round they just fly too slow, and no aftermarket companies make quality 8mm barrels or high grade 8mm hop rubbers

[Knocturnal]

Why is it the only place where I find firefly buckings are from retailers situated in asia... Are there any equivalents to this bucking that I can possibly find in north america?