Is suppressing fire, "blind fire"?

[ert]

Even if he can it's still very gay and I'd hope someone would smack me if I did that in a game.

[Raw Deal]

Airsoft...caught on film. great pic

[gandar]

That was a total paintball move if I've ever seen one.

[MMMiles!]

Originally Posted by Brian McIlmoyle

Looking at most rulesets for the majority of games posted here I see a rule that forbids "blind fire"

does this mean that suppressing fire laid in to the position of enemy designed to keep their heads down is not allowed?

Do you need to be able to see a target to fire at it? Is it ok to fire into the area known to harbour targets, even if at that particular moment you can't "see" them?

I wonder this.. because it is difficult to win a firefight if you are not allowed to have one.

It really depends on who you're playing with.
At public games with hicaps, blind fire is just a bad scene, because plenty of people could literally dump thousands of rounds out.
If it's a private game, and we're not each carrying a platoon's worth of ammo, then I personally don't mind it. There is still a safety issue if someone pokes a gun around a corner unknowingly into someone's face (and it does get quite CQ sometimes), but if you play with people you know and trust, even that's not a big deal.

However, I beleive you can only really entertain the idea at private games of some kind. Publically, for safety reasons, it's out of the question. There are already plenty of players how can't restrain themselves under regular circumstances (dumping a mag into an opponent at point blank), that permitting blind fire would just be a disaster.

I might be repeating what's in the thread, just my 2 cents.

[made Man]

hmm... i was doing something like that once... but i had the gun about 15 cm above my head a pretty clear view of where my BBs were going... and sure as hell there was no one on the other side to be shot point blank.

[Lisa]

Which brings us to firing from the hip. You're defo not looking through your sights on that one.

[Malinak]

Maybe not, but at least you can see where they are hitting.

[Tankdude]

I love tearing bushes apart when firing from the hip. But I know where the bbs are going.

As long as the weapon is being aimed and under control I say go for it.

[DanOnymus]

I always figured blind fire being shooting around a corner without taking yourself around said corner... definately a perfect setup for serious accidents...

Shooting above bunkers like in the first picture is also a bit dangerous and still goes into my blind fire category, as someone might just have crawled up to there and stand up to surprise you (sadly, with an upgraded rifle cranking BB's up his face to no end)


As for shooting without using the sights, that's just a different way to handle your weapon, if you can aim well without using the sights, good for you. At best, it gives more survival chances to the ennemy

I've shot from the hip alot back in the days, considering I could not use the sights of my rifle, but I always kept my eyes on where my gun was pointed when the trigger was being pulled. I also noticed that my kill/BB ratio went way up once I got a scope mount and a low-mag scope on the rifle.
Using black BB's sure didn't help me track down their flight paths, but it sure kept the targets from dodging the BB's!

[Lisa]

What about shooting into dense bush where you know the target is there but you can't see the target.

[HGI]

Originally Posted by Grim Fandango

It's a paintball gun!

It'd be funny to try and fire a real m4 like that lol the recol would just be laughing at you.

[Cortexburn]

In CQB I can see it being an issue...but I don't see it as a hazard in an outdoor game. If they want to waste ammo....fine....

We've no blind fire rule...but as we don't play CQB I guess that would be why.....

[FOX_111]

That guy is firering Insurgent style.
Unefectife waisting or ammo.

[ert]

Originally Posted by Lisa

What about shooting into dense bush where you know the target is there but you can't see the target.

I do it all the time. It keeps their heads down while you move around or cover for your teammate to move into a flanking position. Like I said eariler, lots of people become very timid/tense when playing airsoft and even the sound of a gun shooting anywhere near them makes them freeze and become easy targets.

[Malinak]

Originally Posted by Lisa

What about shooting into dense bush where you know the target is there but you can't see the target.

As long as the bushes are more than 15ft away, I dont see why this would be a problem either.
You are at a safe distance and can see where your shots are going, thus I wouldnt call it blind fire.