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Old May 29th, 2011, 01:08   #16
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That would mean that every week you have people who want to be snipers? This isn't CoD...
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Old May 29th, 2011, 01:18   #17
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I love sniping and my l96 has hopup problems. I want a good sniper that i can customize and keep for a long time without worrying about breaking it, and i just want to expand my armoury.
your l96 is a "good sniper"...... rifle that is just put 500-1000 bucks worth of fancy laylax or pdi parts into it, itll still break just not as often, higher fps itll break faster lowwer it will shoot more consistantly due to the fact out light projectiles become unstable at higher speeds

Or ya ok buy the vsr but dont forget the whack of upgrade parts

you will need
PSS10 air seal chamber
PSS10 Red piston
Reinforced 1st and 2nd seers many diffones around
or can go with the Zero trigger and piston beter but more $$
spring prolly a pss100 or 120 will be around 450fps
youll want a fancy tight bore
and thats the the bare bones upgrade
lotta time tweaking and lil crap to get it soohting somewhat beter then a highend AEG

good luck

im sure all the above has been said google is yer friend couldda got it with good spelling and grammer and prolly links to the parts too
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Old May 29th, 2011, 02:25   #18
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Let's break it down

To be able to call in "chopper gunners" you need to spend over $1000 in your "sniper". For ac-130's you need to machine your own parts (noobie is one example). Nuke is making a rifleable bb without killing anybody..

The following are in "american" dollars, and was how much I've spent so far
Zero trigger ~$200
Edgi 430mm barrel ~$70
gspec $150
barrel spacers $15
Muzzle adaptor ~$15
"silencer" $15
Raven cylinder/cylinder head $100
Vacuum piston $56
PDI piston end $26
Pdi vacuum spring guide $16
PDI 360% $26
Scope $130-$70 (overstock credit)
Bucking $10

... I don't want to add it up because it will make me feel worse... considering this is only one of my guns...
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Old May 29th, 2011, 04:47   #19
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OP: I highly doubt you're 36 like you say. If you are then please write coherently and think about replies before posting. Also use the edit button instead of bumping the thread up by making 3 replies in a row.

Also take note that ASC has a long memory. Please try not to make a fool of yourself.

A stock VSR will get the same effective range as a regular AEG. Once you add aftermarket parts like Laylax, PDI, EdGI, etc. it'll start to outrange regular AEG's but you're looking at dumping at minimum $600 into your rifle to achieve even a fraction of that.

Also I believe Stalker and Amos both play with rifles that shoot at 400 and use .36's or something to that effect. FPS isn't everything, you also need flight stability and to be consistent with your shots (no use in using a pistol to try and snipe someone from across the field, use a rifle instead). In airsoft terms an M4 left stock except with an upgraded spring will not outrange nor will it be more accurate than the same M4 with upgraded compression unit, Hop up unit/bucking, barrel that shoots at stock speeds (say 330 for sake of argument). There are in fact some people who are in the "300 club" that play with stock springs (basically 1 Joule and under).
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Old May 29th, 2011, 09:13   #20
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Running a sniper rifle requires more than a simple spring/gearbox swap, and higher FPS does not equal better ballistic flight performance. What you're looking for is ballistic STABILITY - i.e., relatively flat trajectory over long distances with minimal horizontal drift due to crosswinds. Stable flight is achieved using long tightbore barrels, a good quality hop-up, a tight compression chamber/piston setup and heavy BBs. This should get you flight stability over the distance.

What a higher FPS will do, however, is allow the BB to travel further before gravitational effects start affecting the flight path. The backspin from the hop-up is to offset gravity by providing lift to the BB during flight.

Other equipment attached to the rifle - such as scopes, digital wind displays, bipods, zero/two-stage triggers, barrel stabilizers, etc. - will affect the accuracy of the firing platform (less drift, minimal trigger jerk, wind correction, etc.), but won't affect the flight itself.

And as others have already said - get yourself AV'ed. If you're 36, it's a painless process.
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Old May 29th, 2011, 09:39   #21
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You're going down a very very expensive road there mate, normally a sniper rifle costs about $1000, but for a sniper you're going to need to pay thousands and thousands of dollars on showers, beer, food, hookers, and if you don't want to worry about breaking it, you're going to need to get a health plan. If you've got the money, I recommend ordering from the states since it's legal to buy a sniper, just not a sniper rifle. ^^
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@OP the average range for a stock TM VSR10 is about 125 feet
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Old May 30th, 2011, 15:41   #22
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+1, the average effective range of a stock VSR G-spec is around 125-150 feet. Performs poorly in wind as well.

I built my super accurate laser rifle VSR-10 for about $900. But it has no external upgrades done to it.

FPS doesn't mean a whole lot when it comes to range and accuracy, it's all about compression.

For example, Amos and I have the same VSR, however he had a 6.01 650mm barrel at 470fps, and I had a 6.03 430mm barrel at 380 fps.
He had an extra 15 feet of range, and was actually slightly LESS accurate.

Optimum FPS range for .30g BB's is around 400-430fps, if your running 450-470, you need heavier BB's
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