silencer n00b!

dutch13 · June 23rd, 2010, 15:31

my hk silencer decreases my fps by up to 50 fps. i've tried in on a few of my aegs and it has the same affect.

Zk08 · June 23rd, 2010, 16:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by RaisinBran

Silencers by themselves actually decrease accuracy it's best to buy a longer inner barrel then put a silencer to hide it.

looks like a good idea!

coach · June 23rd, 2010, 16:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by RaisinBran

Silencers by themselves actually decrease accuracy it's best to buy a longer inner barrel then put a silencer to hide it.

I must be doing something wrong then as my aeg's gbb's or gbbr don't lose significant accuracy to notice or warrent a longer inner barrel.

THe_Silencer · June 28th, 2010, 19:13

My silencer does a great job of hiding my inner barrel

glitch1502319641 · August 10th, 2010, 21:25

after playing since late 2002, and committing wholeheartedly with my friends, the only issue I have had 2 issues with silencers {1} They're stuffed with too much foam, and obstructing the BBs path. {2} If the silencer is installed wrong and obstructing the BBs path.

I have had lots of different silencers slip through my hands over the years... personally I would go with a QD (Quick detach) system if you want to throw it on mid-game to snipe some one, and a screw-on if you're going to use it as a barrel shroud, or if you're going to leave it on permanently.

All of the Silencers that you would buy on line are, Or should be "mock" silencers. The reason? since they are 1:1 (or the same size as the real silencers) and many have trademarks of various silencer producer making them look like the real thing. In Many states (provinces, countries and kingdoms [did I leave anyone out?]) it is Illegal to have a Silencer with out a license. If it silences a real gun-even by 1db, then it is technically a silencer, and you can face criminal charges, fines, and jail time depending on the state, and the implications...

In my experience most "mock" silencers can easily be disassembled and stuffed with foam to quiet the 'POP' of the airsoft gun. I would advise doing this at your own risk...
having said that I have done it to both of the silencers I've owned, and helped my friends to do the same. an un-foamed out-of-the-box "silencer" will muffle the "POP" a little and mostly change the sound of the shot. obviously if used to hide a longer inner barrel it won't silence the shot. With foam inside the silencer it will make a dramatic difference to the "POP" and even subdue it altogether... there will still be the motor whine, and gearbox noise, which can't really be quieted much... From my experience a open-cell foam works best. even those green scotch-brite pads cut into doughnuts and stacked into columns onside the silencer. the idea is you want the air to expand into the foam and keep the blast of air behind the BB from reaching the end of the silencer... I have had no issues with any sort of hop-up or suction from the vacant space inside the silencer... I recommend that there be a 12mm hole through the foam so there is no obstruction for the BB. (unless you're really good at cutting and stacking the foam, then go for it!)

I like the QD silencers because that fits my stile of play. I Like to Blitz, and every now and then I want to take a shot from cover, with out blowing my cover. So on goes the silencer. If I need to hustle some where, it can come off making the gun shorter and more maneuverable...
with the screw-on ones I would see those as more of a permanent instillation. the 14mm CCW (Counter Clock Wise) thread is kinda a pain to screw on/off

The QD silencers weigh more, and some times have some slop in them causing them to droop. (blocking the path of the BB) If you go with a QD take a look at the ones that come with, or utilize a specific flash hider. such as the SCAR type silencer. this will solve the slop issue. the Gemtech halo silencer fits a number of flash hiders, and is very secure. but takes time to attach/take off... this type was the quickest that I've had: http://redwolfairsoft.com/redwolf/ai...ncer_175mm.htm
but can have slop to it. It did work reasonably well with the stock TM P90 flash hider-though it did not lock completely.

I would also Recommend the "stubby" type of silencer. It's short so it doesn't completely silence the shot, but muffles it. It is also short enough to leave on. It will be enough to quiet your gun so that it will take your prey a couple of shots to figure out where you are...

Styrak · August 10th, 2010, 21:29

"In many states"?

This is Canada. I guess you just copy and pasted that from somewhere?

glitch1502319641 · August 11th, 2010, 13:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by Styrak

"In many states"?

This is Canada. I guess you just copy and pasted that from somewhere?

I actually moved to BC from Montana a few years ago, and I really don't appreciate being called a plagiarist... get your facts straight before you go flying off the handle...
I'd also like to point out that AirsoftCanada.com has lots of really good information applicable to ALL airsofters around the world, not just the great nation of Canada.

redzaku · August 15th, 2010, 00:23

so what im reading from all these previous posts that a suppresser actually acts similar to a musket gun?

tehmedic · August 15th, 2010, 01:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by redzaku

so what im reading from all these previous posts that a suppresser actually acts similar to a musket gun?

lolwhat?...

Strelok · August 15th, 2010, 01:56

Weeaboos confuse me.

redzaku · August 15th, 2010, 02:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by tehmedic

lolwhat?...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Strelok

Weeaboos confuse me.

k, what makes a musket gun inaccurate because of no rifling on it, so the ball just bounces around inside the barrel and what direction what the ball bounced from, it will go there
so in a supresser, i would think the same?

pusangani · August 15th, 2010, 02:21

the bb's don't bounce around in the suppressor.

redzaku · August 15th, 2010, 02:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by pusangani

the bb's don't bounce around in the suppressor.

then i dont know why does it decrease accuracy.... wait nvm i figured it now

kennyclone · August 15th, 2010, 02:36

muskets have been proven to be accurate up to 1000 meters. they only lost favor because more reliable weapons came around that could be fired in rapid succession

Styrak · August 15th, 2010, 02:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by redzaku

k, what makes a musket gun inaccurate because of no rifling on it, so the ball just bounces around inside the barrel and what direction what the ball bounced from, it will go there
so in a supresser, i would think the same?

Airsoft guns aren't rifled either.

But like Pus said, a BB should not touch the silencer in flight.

Quote:

Originally Posted by kennyclone

muskets have been proven to be accurate up to 1000 meters. they only lost favor because more reliable weapons came around that could be fired in rapid succession

Bahahaha, yeah right. Don't spout lies.

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June 28th, 2010, 19:13	#19
THe_Silencer Trader rating Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Hamilton,ON	My silencer does a great job of hiding my inner barrel __________________ It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it - Aristotle -Founder of Steel City Hamilton Infantry and Tactics -Certified level 43 Autosniper by Commander Amos Last edited by THe_Silencer; June 29th, 2010 at 03:31..

August 10th, 2010, 21:25	#20
glitch1502319641 Trader rating Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Cranbrook, BC	Silent AND deadly! after playing since late 2002, and committing wholeheartedly with my friends, the only issue I have had 2 issues with silencers {1} They're stuffed with too much foam, and obstructing the BBs path. {2} If the silencer is installed wrong and obstructing the BBs path. I have had lots of different silencers slip through my hands over the years... personally I would go with a QD (Quick detach) system if you want to throw it on mid-game to snipe some one, and a screw-on if you're going to use it as a barrel shroud, or if you're going to leave it on permanently. All of the Silencers that you would buy on line are, Or should be "mock" silencers. The reason? since they are 1:1 (or the same size as the real silencers) and many have trademarks of various silencer producer making them look like the real thing. In Many states (provinces, countries and kingdoms [did I leave anyone out?]) it is Illegal to have a Silencer with out a license. If it silences a real gun-even by 1db, then it is technically a silencer, and you can face criminal charges, fines, and jail time depending on the state, and the implications... In my experience most "mock" silencers can easily be disassembled and stuffed with foam to quiet the 'POP' of the airsoft gun. I would advise doing this at your own risk... having said that I have done it to both of the silencers I've owned, and helped my friends to do the same. an un-foamed out-of-the-box "silencer" will muffle the "POP" a little and mostly change the sound of the shot. obviously if used to hide a longer inner barrel it won't silence the shot. With foam inside the silencer it will make a dramatic difference to the "POP" and even subdue it altogether... there will still be the motor whine, and gearbox noise, which can't really be quieted much... From my experience a open-cell foam works best. even those green scotch-brite pads cut into doughnuts and stacked into columns onside the silencer. the idea is you want the air to expand into the foam and keep the blast of air behind the BB from reaching the end of the silencer... I have had no issues with any sort of hop-up or suction from the vacant space inside the silencer... I recommend that there be a 12mm hole through the foam so there is no obstruction for the BB. (unless you're really good at cutting and stacking the foam, then go for it!) I like the QD silencers because that fits my stile of play. I Like to Blitz, and every now and then I want to take a shot from cover, with out blowing my cover. So on goes the silencer. If I need to hustle some where, it can come off making the gun shorter and more maneuverable... with the screw-on ones I would see those as more of a permanent instillation. the 14mm CCW (Counter Clock Wise) thread is kinda a pain to screw on/off The QD silencers weigh more, and some times have some slop in them causing them to droop. (blocking the path of the BB) If you go with a QD take a look at the ones that come with, or utilize a specific flash hider. such as the SCAR type silencer. this will solve the slop issue. the Gemtech halo silencer fits a number of flash hiders, and is very secure. but takes time to attach/take off... this type was the quickest that I've had: http://redwolfairsoft.com/redwolf/ai...ncer_175mm.htm but can have slop to it. It did work reasonably well with the stock TM P90 flash hider-though it did not lock completely. I would also Recommend the "stubby" type of silencer. It's short so it doesn't completely silence the shot, but muffles it. It is also short enough to leave on. It will be enough to quiet your gun so that it will take your prey a couple of shots to figure out where you are... Last edited by glitch1502319641; August 11th, 2010 at 13:33.. Reason: Typos

August 10th, 2010, 21:29	#21
Styrak Trader rating Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Saskatoon, SK	"In many states"? This is Canada. I guess you just copy and pasted that from somewhere? __________________ Airsoft Sales and Repair/Upgrade Services

June 23rd, 2010, 15:31	#16
dutch13 Trader rating Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Manitoba	my hk silencer decreases my fps by up to 50 fps. i've tried in on a few of my aegs and it has the same affect.

August 15th, 2010, 00:23	#23
redzaku Trader rating Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Edmonton	so what im reading from all these previous posts that a suppresser actually acts similar to a musket gun? __________________ Love and Tolerance Coffee, what purpose does these serve? А ну, чики-брики и в дамки! За Родину! BRRRRRT!

August 15th, 2010, 01:56	#25
Strelok Trader rating Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Brandon Manitoba	Weeaboos confuse me.

August 15th, 2010, 02:21	#27
pusangani Official ASC "Dumb Ass" Trader rating Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Scarbrah, Ontario	the bb's don't bounce around in the suppressor. __________________

August 15th, 2010, 02:36	#29
kennyclone Trader rating Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Grande Prairie, AB	muskets have been proven to be accurate up to 1000 meters. they only lost favor because more reliable weapons came around that could be fired in rapid succession

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