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Old June 14th, 2011, 00:14   #16
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I just read some gear talk and I read that helical gears are quieter than straight gears in transmissions, so part of my theory could be wrong.

I can find quotes of people saying both. My thoughts in my previous post (more contact area) are why I believed the louder theory. I don't know what to think now?? ENGINEERS? PHYSICISTS?!? PLEASE WEIGH IN!
I agree, I've seen both.... Wikipedia, for one, says helical gears are quieter than straight/spur cut gears. I guess I'm going to wait till i get through 100,000 and see if they "break in" and get quieter like Reckless said, although I highly doubt it... but I'm still a novice so...

I'm running an Hk416 CQB by VFC/umarex with the stock spring, which is shooting 300fps.... It's advertised to shoot 330-360. During the beginning of this helical upgrade journey, my gearbox kept locking as I couldnt get the shimming right. I left it for the next morning and when I opened it up the next day, I noticed the piston was locked back, spring compressed. I had let it sit the night like that!! I opened up expectiing to have to buy a whole new GB but to my dismay everything was fine. I think that's what dropped my spring... I have a systema m120 non-linear spring around and I'm wondering if my motor can take it.




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Helicals by nature arent as loud as straight cut
However, being fairly new to this, how do you know it's the gears making the noise, and not the pinion-bevel engagement?
There's an incredibly obvious difference in sound between a gun with a low set motor height, and a gun with a properly set motor height. It becomes much quieter once you adjust the motor.
If you check the photos in the thread I linked, you'll see how I adjusted the motor. That method is pretty much failproof as opposed to playing with it and judging it's adjustment by the sound it makes.

I have a professional-level condenser microphone around, maybe I can record firing a couple shots and put it up?

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Old June 14th, 2011, 15:05   #17
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You really don't have to go that far lol
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