Blackwater DM in Iraq

SCG48 · June 11th, 2006, 19:53

thats the impression I got near the end of the vid.

Correct me if im wrong, but the contractors have to follow orders directed by the Marines or whatever unit they are working with, and if they have better suggestions, the unit they are working for can simply turn it down.

DuffMan · June 11th, 2006, 20:53

Contractors don't work for Marines, generally speaking. Protection of some DoD related companies (Halliburton) are taken up by PMCs, but I've never heard of a private sector company actually working under/for the Army/Marines. PMCs there work for private companies, period. Companies like GE and DHL aren't given any PSDs by the DoD.

Kimbo · June 12th, 2006, 00:44

Here is the backstory to that video.

Great background events told here by an anonymous source:

''The 5-man Blackwater crew that was assinged to CPA Najaf were coming under heavy small arms and mortar fire, the city was being taken over by insurgents. The police stations and hospitals were taken over as well, after a day of fighting off hundreds of insurgents the city had been completely overrun, with the CPA in the heart of the city and no way out.

The Team called up to Baghdad and reported the situation, they said they needed immediate extract which Gen Sanchez also denied due to the fact the city had been overrun and there were no US troops there, only contractors.

Well, Ambassador Bremer was pissed at Sanchez and I remember being on office watch during the massive arguments! Ambassador Bremer and our Baghdad TM Leader got together and Bremer said ''I don't want another Bridge hanging! Get those boys out of there by any means nessassary!'' so 12 of us -- 6 pilots and 6 gunners loaded as much as we could in 3 MD530 little birds and headed 70 miles south. we flew in the first day and blind (no comms, and no intel on the heat) to try a resupply, land find out was was going on and then head back, rearm and get ready to go again. Well that night all hell broke lose and we flew back in. Over 1000 insurgents (reported by the F18 pilots) had taken the city and now wanted the CPA after a day of intense fighting by 11 BW guys, airstrikes, a handfull of Marines and 1 sniper we were able to hold them off. After it DIED down and gunships and SF guys finally started to roll in the battle was soon over and we the CPA was saved.

That's pretty much it in a nut shell...''

SCG48 · June 12th, 2006, 18:40

Hell of an experience

Tom Swift · September 3rd, 2009, 01:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jar|-|ead

HOLY SHIT..this is the dude im trying to replicate even his gun...

That dude is Travis from Magpul Dynamics there was a thread on AR15.com in which someone asked and Travis said exactly what his gun was.

Pivot · September 4th, 2009, 11:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom Swift

That dude is Travis from Magpul Dynamics there was a thread on AR15.com in which someone asked and Travis said exactly what his gun was.

Doesn't look a thing like him. Must be monkeyed up on roids when he was in Iraq, because he looks a hell of a lot lighter and slimmer in the AotTC DVDs. Anyways, here's a picture of his rifle (a repro done up by Blackwater for him as a gift for the combat actions of Al Najaf in '04). Only thing that seems to be different is the PEQ is missing.

Kit · September 4th, 2009, 11:30

thats a sweet vid!

Tom Swift · September 4th, 2009, 14:39

More info on the vid

http://www.facebook.com/video/video....id=59481028510

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June 11th, 2006, 19:53	#16
SCG48 a.k.a. SniperChic Trader rating Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: The Farm	thats the impression I got near the end of the vid. Correct me if im wrong, but the contractors have to follow orders directed by the Marines or whatever unit they are working with, and if they have better suggestions, the unit they are working for can simply turn it down. __________________ DW48 Bolt Action Level 3 Certified A Veteran - whether active duty, retired or reserve - is someone who at one point in their life, wrote a blank check made payable to "The Country of Canada", for an amount of "up to and including my life."-- Author Unknown

June 11th, 2006, 20:53	#17
DuffMan Trader rating Join Date: Feb 2004	Contractors don't work for Marines, generally speaking. Protection of some DoD related companies (Halliburton) are taken up by PMCs, but I've never heard of a private sector company actually working under/for the Army/Marines. PMCs there work for private companies, period. Companies like GE and DHL aren't given any PSDs by the DoD. __________________ "He resisted. I asked him to comply." "Telling him to 'eat it, bitch' is not really a request."

June 12th, 2006, 18:40	#19
SCG48 a.k.a. SniperChic Trader rating Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: The Farm	Hell of an experience __________________ DW48 Bolt Action Level 3 Certified A Veteran - whether active duty, retired or reserve - is someone who at one point in their life, wrote a blank check made payable to "The Country of Canada", for an amount of "up to and including my life."-- Author Unknown

June 12th, 2006, 00:44	#18
Kimbo formerly pivot Trader rating Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Calgary	Here is the backstory to that video. Great background events told here by an anonymous source: ''The 5-man Blackwater crew that was assinged to CPA Najaf were coming under heavy small arms and mortar fire, the city was being taken over by insurgents. The police stations and hospitals were taken over as well, after a day of fighting off hundreds of insurgents the city had been completely overrun, with the CPA in the heart of the city and no way out. The Team called up to Baghdad and reported the situation, they said they needed immediate extract which Gen Sanchez also denied due to the fact the city had been overrun and there were no US troops there, only contractors. Well, Ambassador Bremer was pissed at Sanchez and I remember being on office watch during the massive arguments! Ambassador Bremer and our Baghdad TM Leader got together and Bremer said ''I don't want another Bridge hanging! Get those boys out of there by any means nessassary!'' so 12 of us -- 6 pilots and 6 gunners loaded as much as we could in 3 MD530 little birds and headed 70 miles south. we flew in the first day and blind (no comms, and no intel on the heat) to try a resupply, land find out was was going on and then head back, rearm and get ready to go again. Well that night all hell broke lose and we flew back in. Over 1000 insurgents (reported by the F18 pilots) had taken the city and now wanted the CPA after a day of intense fighting by 11 BW guys, airstrikes, a handfull of Marines and 1 sniper we were able to hold them off. After it DIED down and gunships and SF guys finally started to roll in the battle was soon over and we the CPA was saved. That's pretty much it in a nut shell...''

September 4th, 2009, 11:30	#22
Kit Ride Sleds! Trader rating Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Kitchener+Cambridge, Ontario	thats a sweet vid! __________________ Retired.

September 4th, 2009, 14:39	#23
Tom Swift Trader rating Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Vancouver	More info on the vid http://www.facebook.com/video/video....id=59481028510

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