Squad control orders

[FOX_111]

Anyone got a list of the orders shouted by Squad Leaders to the squadmates to control fire and other combat manuvers?

I know a bunch of them, both in english and french, but I'd like to know them all.

Anyone in the CF or that got a source for it, could post it here please?

[Jbone 11 11]

I got the old Warrior mannual (BMQ cerca 1990's) at home. I can have a look in there. Its pretty good for stuff like that..... actually, it might be online somewhere. I'll have look and post back when I get home.

[Jbone 11 11]

meantime have a look here if you havent already:

http://armyapp.dnd.ca/ael/

[Jbone 11 11]

maybe here too:

http://www.army.forces.gc.ca/cfb_gag...ntry/index.asp

[Jbone 11 11]

Ok last one ....sorry, this is probablly more what you are looking for ; )

http://armyapp.dnd.ca/ael/pubs/B-GL-300-007-FP-001.pdf

[Scarecrow]

Wolfpack has an entire manual written on command and control for squad level and command level communications. We started out using the CF based system but found aspects of it to be inapplicable or more complex than necessary so we paired it down as time went on. I'd encourage you to develop something similar - its a fun process and you learn a lot in doing it. Airsoft squad actions are relatively simple and limited and you can really have an impact on the effectiveness of your crews when you do this and combine it with a little bit of weekend training.

Best of luck!

[Wilson]

"Get over here."

"Sit the fuck down, son."

"Go kill that."

Works for us pretty well.

In all seriousness though, search for "military" on the pirate bay and there should be a torrent full of FM manuals and such. There's plenty of goodies in there. Also, the US Marine Common Skills Handbook is loaded with stuff applicable to our sport.

[Tankdude]

_______ the fuck ________

The first blank should be a verb and the second blank should be a direction.

[Blackthorne]

Ia actually agree with Scarecrow. Rigging up you own terms makes it easier for your guys to take ownership as it's not as alien. It comes more naturally.

The CF stuff is numptied down. I find in airsoft you can actually bring it up a notch in complexity and still function well.

Search for G.R.I.T. - Group Range Indication Target

GROUP = "TWO SECTION!"

RANGE = "50 METERS"

INDICATION = "QUARTER RIGHT!" or "REFERENCE MACHINE GUN TO LEFT OF LARGE TREE"

TYPE OF FIRE = "SLOW RATE OF FIRE! GO ON!" or "DUMP ALL REMAINING! FUCK THEM UP!"

[Kit]

Originally Posted by Tankdude

_______ the fuck ________

The first blank should be a verb and the second blank should be a direction.

Haha thats great, but there is military guides on the pirates bay..

[FOX_111]

Originally Posted by Scarecrow

Wolfpack has an entire manual written on command and control for squad level and command level communications. We started out using the CF based system but found aspects of it to be inapplicable or more complex than necessary so we paired it down as time went on. I'd encourage you to develop something similar - its a fun process and you learn a lot in doing it. Airsoft squad actions are relatively simple and limited and you can really have an impact on the effectiveness of your crews when you do this and combine it with a little bit of weekend training.

Best of luck!

That's exacly what I'm doing. I got almost everything done already. I just want to compare my common sens, practical aproach to what is done in the real world.

Since what is done in the CF is based on ages of experiance and lesson learned, I tough it would be wise to validate what I did with what they do.

So far, all the links provided did not illustrate the commands I was looking for.

[pugs144]

This is airsoft. You’re not calling in arty or CAS strikes and you’re not calling for CASEVAC. I don’t know what other “commands” you’re looking for that can’t be adequately covered with GRIT and your own team-developed SOP’s. Real-world units may develop their own SOP’s in addition to the standard comms procedure but if you want to learn it, join and see for yourself. Some things you simply will not find in the Army Electronic Library.

[FOX_111]

No, not airstrik. I have a no bullshit aproach.

I want the actual commands used by squad leader to order their fireteam to engage or manuver.

Example of what I currently use:

Alpha! engage man, 12 o'clock, 150fts, fire at will!
Bravo! Cover fire, 12 o'clock, 150fts, slow fire!

I'm using the Who, what, where and how method.
But I'd like to get the actual therms used.
How they call things and when it is employed.

Some french therms are hard to translate to english and vice versa when it's not contextual.

I got a couple of manuals, a lot of squad and small team tactics and procedures are covered in it, but the actual therms are not in there. I guess they change from military branch and country.

[m102404]

Here's a good example of what not to do....(or at least how to lighten the mood at bit)

teammate..."I've got movement over there..."

other..."Where over there..."

teammate..."right in front of me..."

other..."ok, don't see them...talk us in"

teammate..."RIGHT IN FRONT OF ME...by that tree!!"

other..."ok...we're in a forest...there's lots of trees"

rest of team..."[insert general sniggering]"

..........that, to the best of my recollection was the exchange between myself and Renegade) at the last FTF game as we were defending the rock ridge.....

As long as you've got bearing and general distance...you're ok. If you've got a visible landmark that the others can see...that's even better (e.g. right base of white pine that's leaning to the left....or two big trees past the big boulder at 10 o'clock). In general, "the green tree in front of me" does not work in the fields around here.

[FOX_111]

You are right, but this discussion should be only held between fire buddy and not with the whole squad.

In the context of a squad manuver, when you are given an order to face a direction (based on the clock, where 12 o'clock was the direction of travel), you are to to look at the said direction and distance and assume your arc of fire under your responsability. Sometime, grasing fire (fire 1m off the ground) is enough to do the job to fix or destroy the ennemy.

When playing in a squad, it's not about shooting and making individual kills by yourself, but it's about denying ennemy the change to move and engage. Killing them systematically is acomplished in a dedicated phase of an attack that come later if possible.