203 long or short?!

Buds and Suds · October 7th, 2007, 19:47

When I bought my M15A4 SPC I had a m203 in mind. Now, I cant find any pics with a short 203 on it. I saw one with a RIS style 203 long and it looked a bit silly without the barrel ring attached like the non RIS version. But it had me curious on the short and what it looked like, or if there is any differences that might stop me from buying one. My first thought with the short was that the grenade might be more visable inside the tube. Anyways, if anyone had buyers regrets with the short or long version id love to hear it. I dont know which one to buy and was hoping to get all the asthetic and performance facts from 203 owners perferably.

lykurgus · October 8th, 2007, 01:03

have both,, doesnt seem to matter as far as shells go,, more important as to the manueverabilty of the weapon and weight etc...

jerryliang2k · October 8th, 2007, 01:31

don't be a sissy, long all the way

Also, I personally think the RAS mounted m203 looks ugly. Functional, yes, but ugly.

Zi-Xiao

Buds and Suds · October 20th, 2007, 14:12

Will a non RIS version 203 fit on a RIS system??? since the side rails are apart of the whole top assembly I wasnt sure if it would create enough space. I like the Non RIS version 203 better myself.

ex · October 20th, 2007, 14:27

YUP...Assuming you have a RIS system and not a free floating RAS system. The bottom RIS comes off like a normal handguard.

Non Credo · October 21st, 2007, 00:19

I like the look of the "non-RIS" as well, but RIS. RIS ftw. Long/short, doesnt matter just more weight, but you can mount an RIS 203 on anything with 20 mil rails... Like so:

Notice the suppressor. It is of the utmost importance that your rifle be quiet. Regardless of the 203 nades going off left and right at a billion decibels, we must keep the rifle itself quiet!

Drake · October 21st, 2007, 00:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by Non Credo

Notice the suppressor. It is of the utmost importance that your rifle be quiet. Regardless of the 203 nades going off left and right at a billion decibels, we must keep the rifle itself quiet!

Once again, your public display of ignorance is as astounding as it is mindnumbing.

Lakonian · October 21st, 2007, 00:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by ex-royal

YUP...Assuming you have a RIS system and not a free floating RAS system. The bottom RIS comes off like a normal handguard.

Isn't it the other way around?

I keep getting confused with those damn acronyms.

JoeyJackhammer · October 21st, 2007, 01:04

RAS is a solid piece and RIS has the removable lower. Except the KAC RAS II which freefloats AND has a removable lower rail.

Drake · October 21st, 2007, 01:25

Well, actually both RIS and RAS can fit an M203 (via a removable bottom panel); the RAS system just uses a slightly different attachment system (clamp). However, there are also Free Floating RAS (FF RAS) handguards -- which is what ex-royal specified -- which are one piece and therefor don't have a removable panel to accept a standard M203 mount, and use a different ring (instead of the regular delta ring).

Buds and Suds · October 21st, 2007, 02:19

Awesome, Ill go for the non-RIS. As great as the idea of an interchangable RIS 203 is, I just dont drool as hard over it.

Drake · October 21st, 2007, 02:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buds and Suds

Awesome, Ill go for the non-RIS. As great as the idea of an interchangable RIS 203 is, I just dont drool as hard over it.

As long as you're just mounting it on ARs, it's fine. And I think CA has a QD mount for their M203s, too; I got that on my latest M203 (VFC/GBtech) and it's great. I think it's actually faster to remove than it was unscrewing the two thumbscrews on the RIS version (G&P Jungle one).

I also ended up getting the 12" barrel this time, previously had the shorty/9"; wasn't sure how much I'd like that, but now that I have it I'm glad I got it. I'm using a CASV handguard with a 14.5" barrel and PRI style gas block/folding front sight tower, and I find the whole front just looks big, square and aggressive. But again, as others have said, it comes down to personal preference.

MrEvolution · October 21st, 2007, 02:58

Whats the diff between a RIS and a RAS?

What type is this??

Kutter · October 21st, 2007, 04:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrEvolution

Whats the diff between a RIS and a RAS?

What type is this??

This article should answer your question about the difference between RIS and RAS:
http://www.quarterbore.com/kac/kacrisras.html

And the M203 in your picture can't be mounted on either an RIS or RAS. To mount it you actually have to remove the entire handguard to mount that particular version.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...4/M203_171.jpg

Drake · October 21st, 2007, 04:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrEvolution

Whats the diff between a RIS and a RAS?

What type is this??

My RIS and RAS comment was maybe more relevant to real steel handguards. AFAIK no made-for-airsoft handguard uses the actual RAS setup with the screw-in clip. So for airsoft purposes, it's pretty much RIS or FF RAS.

The particular pic you posted is the oldschool (I find it sexy) replacement handguard for the M203 on an M16 (pre-RIS). Otherwise you'd just have the upper half of the clamshell handguard (not sexy, IMO). You sometimes see M4A1s set up that way, too.

Like this

For reference here's a pic of FF RAS (see how its all one piece, so you wouldn't be able to mount the M203 onto the barrel)

Of course that also applies to other one piece free floating barrel handguard setups.

Otherwise, regular RAS and RIS won't be very outwardly different. I couldn't find a good pic of it, but basically RAS has a clamp that goes into the barrel nut, and then gets screwed into place. But like I said, I don't know of any airsoft handguard that actually uses the system, even those that carry the RAS nomenclature because they look like realworld RAS handguards (such as the RAS II stuff from G&P).

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October 7th, 2007, 19:47	#1
Buds and Suds Trader rating Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: edmonton	203 long or short?! When I bought my M15A4 SPC I had a m203 in mind. Now, I cant find any pics with a short 203 on it. I saw one with a RIS style 203 long and it looked a bit silly without the barrel ring attached like the non RIS version. But it had me curious on the short and what it looked like, or if there is any differences that might stop me from buying one. My first thought with the short was that the grenade might be more visable inside the tube. Anyways, if anyone had buyers regrets with the short or long version id love to hear it. I dont know which one to buy and was hoping to get all the asthetic and performance facts from 203 owners perferably.

October 8th, 2007, 01:03	#2
lykurgus Trader rating Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: interior	have both,, doesnt seem to matter as far as shells go,, more important as to the manueverabilty of the weapon and weight etc... __________________ age verifier for the east kootenays. http://www.airsoftparts.ca/store2/,, 100% canadian, online airsoft retail badass. http://www.gc-minis.com/ ,, 30% off games-workshop miniatures...

October 8th, 2007, 01:31	#3
jerryliang2k Trader rating Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Mississauga, ON	don't be a sissy, long all the way Also, I personally think the RAS mounted m203 looks ugly. Functional, yes, but ugly. Zi-Xiao __________________ Primary - CA M249 - Systema PTW Sidearms - KWA G18c - WE 1911

October 20th, 2007, 14:12	#4
Buds and Suds Trader rating Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: edmonton	Will a non RIS version 203 fit on a RIS system??? since the side rails are apart of the whole top assembly I wasnt sure if it would create enough space. I like the Non RIS version 203 better myself.

October 20th, 2007, 14:27	#5
ex Wanna buy some Nod's? #StolenValour Trader rating Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Ottawa	YUP...Assuming you have a RIS system and not a free floating RAS system. The bottom RIS comes off like a normal handguard. __________________ ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ

October 21st, 2007, 00:19	#6
Non Credo Trader rating Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: couch	I like the look of the "non-RIS" as well, but RIS. RIS ftw. Long/short, doesnt matter just more weight, but you can mount an RIS 203 on anything with 20 mil rails... Like so: Notice the suppressor. It is of the utmost importance that your rifle be quiet. Regardless of the 203 nades going off left and right at a billion decibels, we must keep the rifle itself quiet! __________________

October 21st, 2007, 01:04	#9
JoeyJackhammer Trader rating Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Moose Jaw, SK	RAS is a solid piece and RIS has the removable lower. Except the KAC RAS II which freefloats AND has a removable lower rail. __________________

October 21st, 2007, 01:25	#10
Drake E-01 Trader rating Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Montreal, QC	Well, actually both RIS and RAS can fit an M203 (via a removable bottom panel); the RAS system just uses a slightly different attachment system (clamp). However, there are also Free Floating RAS (FF RAS) handguards -- which is what ex-royal specified -- which are one piece and therefor don't have a removable panel to accept a standard M203 mount, and use a different ring (instead of the regular delta ring). __________________

October 21st, 2007, 02:19	#11
Buds and Suds Trader rating Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: edmonton	Awesome, Ill go for the non-RIS. As great as the idea of an interchangable RIS 203 is, I just dont drool as hard over it.

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