What frame is this S&W revolver? (pic)

[Uziguy]

I just bought this a few minutes ago from buyairsoft.ca;

http://buyairsoft.ca/catalog/popup_image.php?pID=57

I have owned one of these before and the only thing that I didnt like about it was the grip (really cheesy plastic). So I am going to buy a hogue grip for it. So I basically have 2 questions....

1) What frame gun is this? I think I have it narrowed down to a "K" or "N"

2) Is there any problem with ordering a real steel gun grip from the US (eBay)?

[Uziguy]

My mistake, I now believe this gun to be a Colt Python.....

[Greylocks]

It's a S&W, with a custom barrel. Looks like a K frame, I'd know better if I could see a really detailed picture or have a guess at the caliber.

S&W made only one N-frame .357, and it does not look much like an L-frame.

Now that I stared at it longer, it almost looks like some of the custom jobs that had mated a Python barrel to a S&W frame. Those were rare birds.
The frame seems to be S&W (check the cylinder release button), but could be a copy of S&W by Rossi (who makes handguns that are very close).

[Denis[teamplayer]]

mind making a review of the revolver? like how it runs with propane and bbs heavier than the suggested 0.12g @ 300fps.

Any details, and pics would be appreciated!!


I understand that its UFC so I shouldn't expect a whole lot but for the price its really appealing for use as a prop/wall hanger.

thanks,
Cheers!

[Uziguy]

Its actually an HFC revolver and there are some reviews out there. It shoots 260-280 fps with green gas and .20's

[Denis[teamplayer]]

Originally Posted by Uziguy

Its actually an HFC revolver and there are some reviews out there. It shoots 260-280 fps with green gas and .20's

reading em now, just prefer ASC first hand info, but that review from airsoftretreat was enough to make me want to get one.

thanks,

EDIT: update on if it leaks with propane, # of shots, etc.

[Gryphon]

It's certainly got Smith & Wesson influences though it is NOT a factory Smith & Wesson revolver. The frame is extremely similar although the top strap is far too thick. It appears to have been matched to the ugly-as-sin, non-Smith & Wesson rib the barrel is sporting. I also know of no N-frames that have the "dented" look on the trigger guard; they are not always perfectly circular but this airsoft model has a distinct straightaway portion to it that is uncharacteristic of a factory Smith.

Judging by the size and proportions of the cylinder it appears to be in N-frame territory.

Originally Posted by Greylocks

S&W made only one N-frame .357

You should reconsider that blatantly incorrect statement.

[Greylocks]

S&W made many N-frame revolvers, but the .357 was only in the Model 27 and 28. (Same gun, different barrel lenghts).

I stand by my comment. That one has a non-standard barrel and rib as I said so it's a 'custom' job or a frankenstein version to avoid copyright issues.

Here's a link to that frame model's options; http://world.guns.ru/handguns/hg77-e.htm

So the basic gun from what it was copied is S&W N-frame. The rest, it's a toy.

I stand by my comment, I'll even pull my 1961 First Series N-frame from the safe if I have to.

[Gryphon]

I wasn't debating your speculations on the gun in question, in fact we seem to agree on it.

However S&W made both the model 27 and 28 in .357, and there were dozens of custom iterations of the M-27 in subsequent years. A lot of Lew Horton specials, Performance Center guns like the 3" 627 V-Comp, and the 627-5 8-shot:



They may all be based on the M-27 but there's certainly more than "one" N-frame .357.

Would you agree though that the top strap is a dead giveaway? I've never seen a Smith with one that thick.

[Greylocks]

If you refer to the Frame, there's only one N-frame in 357. It's been customized over the years with all kinds of add-ons, in stainless or blue. Now mostly replaced by the L-frame. That's what I meant by 'one'.

Different models? Sure. Lots of them, factory or not, gunsmithed often with match barrels for IPSC speed shooting. But it all still goes back to the original Models 27 and 28. It's a sweet gun, in case you never had the chance to try one.

This question made me look up the S&W website. They sure have interesting new models including their own 1911.

[C.G]

This page (http://www.grips4guns.com/revolver/s...ithwesson.html) explains the difference in butt shapes, and thier grips fit Tanaka guns, yours is a grc? or somethin? take a look around.

best I can do on this one though, hope it helps.

[Denis[teamplayer]]

Originally Posted by Greylocks

It's a sweet gun, in case you never had the chance to try one.

..LOL, where can you get the quick-shell loaders, not the sliding one shown in the pic above but the one where theres a push/pull button?

[Greylocks]

At a good gun shop? That's where I got mine. Or visit gun shows?

[Gryphon]

Look for Safariland Comp II speedloaders. The pic above shows cartridges loaded into "full moon" clips and what looks like some speedy finger contraption for loading them. Your cylinder needs to be recessed in order to use moon clips.

[Denis[teamplayer]]

Originally Posted by Gryphon

Look for Safariland Comp II speedloaders. The pic above shows cartridges loaded into "full moon" clips and what looks like some speedy finger contraption for loading them. Your cylinder needs to be recessed in order to use moon clips.

cool thanks!