just looking to gather a general consensus opinionated questions

[shadow1911]

flame me for this all you want but these are some things that are airsoft only. As time passes they might become applicable to real steel.
flash lights would be those that can rival a surefire
laser sighs can be infrared beam or laser pointer style
they would work with current stuff you got like custom batteries no real modification to gun. maybe a little tape and attachment to rails.

A flashlight and laser sight that run off the same power supply as the rest of your gun. and wouldn't nessaraly deplete battery faster. Would you buy it?

Same question but just flashlight

I flashlight and or laser sight that could power up your aeg(it be a battery box that has a flashlight on it and or laser sight)

I just really wanna know is this stuff worth wile to make/design all items would have choice of momentary or hard small switches(you could tape it on your gun and wouldn't actually notice it)

The ultimate question is. is this stuff worth making? or is there going to be no buyers.

[FOX_111]

No.

Flashlight powered by the same batterie as the gun would be problematic in many ways:

- visible cables on the gun
- complicated wirering
- The light would dim when firing the gun
- Un-able to remove the light and use it independently.

As for lasers, same thing.
Infrared laser need NVGs to be visible and, lasers are VERY dangerous for your eyes especially the IR one.

The reverse is also true, you won't have enough power in a taclight to power a gun.

[shadow1911]

Originally Posted by FOX_111

No.

Flashlight powered by the same batterie as the gun would be problematic in many ways:

- visible cables on the gun
- complicated wirering
- The light would dim when firing the gun
- Un-able to remove the light and use it independently.

As for lasers, same thing.
Infrared laser need NVGs to be visible and, lasers are VERY dangerous for your eyes especially the IR one.

The reverse is also true, you won't have enough power in a taclight to power a gun.

Wireing is acualy realy simple.(Plug in battery to light system plug aeg into light no power changes)(I acualy already have the wireing done up and acualy making them as part of an aeg I desined. So its not that hard to adapt that to a tacktical light case) Only 4 wires from tac light to gun 2 of them are for the switch. I can even make it only 3.(I know how to hide the wires with out modding my guns body.)

Your telling me to take your surefire tac light off your gun and use it indapendently?(Thats a little hard when its fixed to a rail.)

As for the tac light with not enought power to power a gun how much you willing to wager on that cause I have a taclight I made that is powered by a 7.4 volt 2100millamps battery. The battery is powerfull enought to run my aeg not to the best of its performance but run it just the same with out fluxuating the light(stays bright till the batterys dead) and I can pump it all the way up to a 35 volt battery for my tactical light design before it gets any problems.

no disrespect or nothing but I have over come most of the problems your saying. The only one would be the problem that it was orignaly not ment to over come in the first place.

And as for laser sights being unsafe that dosent stop people from using them. and some people have nvg(the infared was an option)

Knowing that its not going to efect your aeg all that much. Infact I am sure a surefire will probly be heavyer and can go threw batterys that are imposible to find.

[FOX_111]

I don't see the advantages of having my taclight powered by my gun.

By using the light independently, I mean removing it quicly from one gun and putting it on a other one.

How big are your tactlight actually? How many lumen do they output?
When you say you can wire them without modding the gun, what kind of gun did you do it on? I run a P90 with a custom J batterie and I can assure you, there is NO room for extra wires. By batterie barely fit as it is.

[Freedom Fighter]

It's another one of these magical special designs with absolutely no drawbacks.

[shadow1911]

Originally Posted by FOX_111

I don't see the advantages of having my taclight powered by my gun.

By using the light independently, I mean removing it quicly from one gun and putting it on a other one.

How big are your tactlight actually? How many lumen do they output?
When you say you can wire them without modding the gun, what kind of gun did you do it on? I run a P90 with a custom J batterie and I can assure you, there is NO room for extra wires. By batterie barely fit as it is.

Wasn't necessarily meant for p90s for less seen wires. It can be changed from one gun to another as fast as changing batteries. it was primarily looked at for rifles. but i am sure i can make it work on a p90. it will work best with m4s because there battery compartment is right by the rails and there's holes to slip the wires in.

as for size the actual unit that's powered by the aegs battery will be about the size of a flash light. in fact the prototype is nothing more then a dollerstore flashlight with a hole in the back that takes 2 AA batteries.

As for your p90 I might actually be able to make a custom one for it that will work.(the real question was is it worth going out and getting the supplies to make like 20 or 30 of them at a time or should I just stick to making my 5)

Space inside the gun needed is the size of an adapter for your battery and about 2 small wires that can even run right along your aegs wires and take up no space.

All things considered I never thought about p90s I thought about mp5s m4 ak famas.

so ya if your looking for a cheap but effective and easy to maintain tac light i can see if i cant come up with something after all the wires that i was going to send with it were literally going to be a more permanent thing from some guns(mp5 AK and others similar) but then again the wires is part of the mount for them ones like m4 it be really simple and no need for extra parts to move it from gun to gun.

over all they would be made custom for the guns you want them for

the battery box on the other hand was a more permanent thing(you might have to put a hole in some guns for it) But it was designed with m4 and g36 in mind.

ultimately what i can make is custom flashlights its not hard to make them work.

Right now they can't rival an led flashlight yet but getting there there main benefit is you can power these babies by a car battery or any other battery you can think up. that also means that you can get a small piece that holds say 6 volts of batteries((button cells AAA use your imagination)) and use that as an alternative power source.

[shadow1911]

Originally Posted by Freedom Fighter

It's another one of these magical special designs with absolutely no drawbacks.

yes there are draw backs I havent figured out how to make them the best they can be right now with the protypes if you hit a wall hard enough they shut down and stay down.(untill you reinstall it to the gun) If you run them too long they can over heat burn out. But come on how complicated can a flashlight or laser sight get?

[FOX_111]

If you want my advise, don't waist your time on this.

Taclight are the way they are for a good reason. Powering them by an AEG batterie is not an improvement.

[shadow1911]

Originally Posted by FOX_111

If you want my advise, don't waist your time on this.

Taclight are the way they are for a good reason. Powering them by an AEG batterie is not an improvement.

Thanks for the advice atleast I hadent yet wasted any time on it.

[Greylocks]

Just a suggestion. Before you come up with revolutionary ideas, start with far simpler stuff.

Complete your profile; Ontario is a big province. Get age-verified, that is far more important than dreaming up contraptions.

And when you do start to dream up parts and attachments for airsoft guns, do your research first. Study how airsoft guns are built, their power source and demands, and the logic/safety of what you propose.

Comments like you made about lasers and everyone using them are incorrect and un-informed. If they use it, and put others vision at risk, they are being really dumb.

So do your part, inform yourself first, go SEE what you are reading about in person, and then after you've had at least some experience... start to invent.

There's a whole lot of very good reasons why certain things are built a certain way. Look them up. It will save you lots of wasted time.

[thephenom]

Are you trying to save cost off the CR123A batteries? I mean they aren't that expensive. And night games aren't happening all that often to make the cost saving to be really great.

[shadow1911]

Originally Posted by thephenom

Are you trying to save cost off the CR123A batteries? I mean they aren't that expensive. And night games aren't happening all that often to make the cost saving to be really great.

lol acualy its original intent was to make more usefull equipment. and ecpariment with my lithim powerpack

[ILLusion]

I wouldn't want a flashlight module that is completely tied with my weapon. I'm fine with my Streamlight M6. It's an integrated 80lumen light module with built in laser aiming device. Both can be powered on independently or together. The best part about it is its ability to be quickly and easily be detached / attached to different weapons. You can't do that with a a device that is tied to your weapon's battery source. I don't see the advantage of having these devices powered by your AEGs main battery.

And on that note, there are already battery packs (built like LAM's) that house your AEGs main battery AND have built in lasers that power off the same battery. This isn't a new concept. Look up the company ICS.

[takatorikku]

not to mention that in wiring everything up off of one battery is going to deplete it quicker, not dramatically, i'm sure, but still, it will add up eventually. and besides, tac-lights and lasers are bolt-on accessories, and i'd like them to stay that way. rails for guns are modular, nothing should ever be permanent.

[GraveRobberXL]

I dont see the point in making all the things run off the same power source (unless you cant afford battery's for your laser/flashlight in which case you shouldnt be in airsoft :-p) Also for it to be appealing to me the flashlight and laser would need a button you need to press to activate it and that might get complicated in terms of wiring. making all the wires neat would be yet another challenge

All in all I would say its not worth it