Ics M4 Motor engaging but not shooting.

Able1 · June 11th, 2010, 20:22

When I pull the trigger, The motor engages but it does not pull the piston all the way back. It pulls the piston half way and than nothing, if i hit the trigger again its just the motor engaging. I popped open the mechbox and cleaned out the grease and put her back together now all it does is screech.

PHARAOH · June 11th, 2010, 20:29

i had the same problem with my ICS m16, by switching from a 8.4V battery to a 9.6V i was able to solve this problem.

see if you can get similar results by borrowing a 9.6V and see what happens.

Boyso · June 11th, 2010, 20:29

Have you tried running your gun with another motor? Or with another battery?

Able1 · June 11th, 2010, 20:35

at the moment i'm running a crappy motor out of a broxa seeing as my ics one broke, my 8.4 ran it just fine. Is the screeching my motor?

Styrak · June 11th, 2010, 20:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by Able1

at the moment i'm running a crappy motor out of a broxa seeing as my ics one broke, my 8.4 ran it just fine. Is the screeching my motor?

ICS motors and pinion gears have a different angle of engagement that normal AEG motors and pinion gears.

So yes it's most likely the motor.

KiloSixNiner · June 11th, 2010, 20:39

Your bevel(?? not sure if that the name, the one connecting the motor) gear may have split. I had that problem on my c-15. It still fired but with barely any power at all and made a real nasty screech.

Boyso · June 11th, 2010, 20:40

I'm not familliar with ICS guns, but it could be many things.

Maybe the shimming that's too tight, battery that's too weak, aftermarket piston that doesn't fit well in the rails and cause jams, or simply motor that's not height adjusted.

Have you done any recent upgrade/downgrade that may have cause the problem?

I'd try with a quality battery first, then with a new motor + quality battery.

VooDooPeteK · June 11th, 2010, 20:45

also you said you put the motor from a broxa in it as your ICS broke.

Did the gun every work with that motor?

Able1 · June 11th, 2010, 20:49

i switched out the pinion gear I think its the shimming.

Boyso · June 11th, 2010, 20:50

Try removing everything except the gears (remove the ARL) and spin them by hand. Shouldn't rattle or anything. Shouldn't spin too much, or not enough. Hard to explain ^^

Able1 · June 11th, 2010, 20:58

lol thats the thing i cant tell if ive shimed to much.

Boyso · June 11th, 2010, 21:01

Should spin for about 2 secs. Try pushing on the bushings outside the GB. Is it any play?

Styrak · June 11th, 2010, 21:27

Did you read my post at all?

Able1 · June 11th, 2010, 21:38

it was working with the broxa motor before, ill try reshimming again and im gettin an ics 3000 motor so hopefully itll work out.

Boyso · June 11th, 2010, 21:53

It was working and it simply stopped working, or did you change something?

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June 11th, 2010, 20:22	#1
Able1 Joeyaglr444 Trader rating Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Toronto Ontario	Ics M4 Motor engaging but not shooting. When I pull the trigger, The motor engages but it does not pull the piston all the way back. It pulls the piston half way and than nothing, if i hit the trigger again its just the motor engaging. I popped open the mechbox and cleaned out the grease and put her back together now all it does is screech. __________________ It's not about the guy who doesn't call his hit. It's about the pants you're wearing and the pants you're team mate is wearing, Is it real multi cam or is it Chinese repro multi cam? I don't know but in the end it's still multicam.

June 11th, 2010, 20:29	#2
PHARAOH Trader rating Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Winnipeg, MB	i had the same problem with my ICS m16, by switching from a 8.4V battery to a 9.6V i was able to solve this problem. see if you can get similar results by borrowing a 9.6V and see what happens. __________________ People like YOU are the reason people like ME need medication.

June 11th, 2010, 20:29	#3
Boyso a.k.a. LastSpartan Trader rating Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Québec city	Have you tried running your gun with another motor? Or with another battery? __________________ NEW BACON FOR SALE! "WHEN I DIE BURY ME UPSIDE DOWN SO THE WORLD CAN KISS MY ASS" -Platoon

June 11th, 2010, 20:35	#4
Able1 Joeyaglr444 Trader rating Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Toronto Ontario	at the moment i'm running a crappy motor out of a broxa seeing as my ics one broke, my 8.4 ran it just fine. Is the screeching my motor? __________________ It's not about the guy who doesn't call his hit. It's about the pants you're wearing and the pants you're team mate is wearing, Is it real multi cam or is it Chinese repro multi cam? I don't know but in the end it's still multicam.

June 11th, 2010, 20:39	#6
KiloSixNiner Trader rating Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: London, Ontario	Your bevel(?? not sure if that the name, the one connecting the motor) gear may have split. I had that problem on my c-15. It still fired but with barely any power at all and made a real nasty screech. __________________ Level 2 Certified BA Sniper

June 11th, 2010, 20:40	#7
Boyso a.k.a. LastSpartan Trader rating Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Québec city	I'm not familliar with ICS guns, but it could be many things. Maybe the shimming that's too tight, battery that's too weak, aftermarket piston that doesn't fit well in the rails and cause jams, or simply motor that's not height adjusted. Have you done any recent upgrade/downgrade that may have cause the problem? I'd try with a quality battery first, then with a new motor + quality battery. __________________ NEW BACON FOR SALE! "WHEN I DIE BURY ME UPSIDE DOWN SO THE WORLD CAN KISS MY ASS" -Platoon

June 11th, 2010, 20:45	#8
VooDooPeteK Trader rating Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Thorold, Ont	also you said you put the motor from a broxa in it as your ICS broke. Did the gun every work with that motor? __________________ http://www.gorillaairsoftradio.com/ Great Airsoft Podcast Gun tech work, Parts, Upgrades and anything else you might need http://www.fortythievesmcnation.com/ Support your local 1%er

June 11th, 2010, 20:49	#9
Able1 Joeyaglr444 Trader rating Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Toronto Ontario	i switched out the pinion gear I think its the shimming. __________________ It's not about the guy who doesn't call his hit. It's about the pants you're wearing and the pants you're team mate is wearing, Is it real multi cam or is it Chinese repro multi cam? I don't know but in the end it's still multicam.

June 11th, 2010, 20:50	#10
Boyso a.k.a. LastSpartan Trader rating Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Québec city	Try removing everything except the gears (remove the ARL) and spin them by hand. Shouldn't rattle or anything. Shouldn't spin too much, or not enough. Hard to explain ^^ __________________ NEW BACON FOR SALE! "WHEN I DIE BURY ME UPSIDE DOWN SO THE WORLD CAN KISS MY ASS" -Platoon

June 11th, 2010, 20:58	#11
Able1 Joeyaglr444 Trader rating Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Toronto Ontario	lol thats the thing i cant tell if ive shimed to much. __________________ It's not about the guy who doesn't call his hit. It's about the pants you're wearing and the pants you're team mate is wearing, Is it real multi cam or is it Chinese repro multi cam? I don't know but in the end it's still multicam.

June 11th, 2010, 21:01	#12
Boyso a.k.a. LastSpartan Trader rating Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Québec city	Should spin for about 2 secs. Try pushing on the bushings outside the GB. Is it any play? __________________ NEW BACON FOR SALE! "WHEN I DIE BURY ME UPSIDE DOWN SO THE WORLD CAN KISS MY ASS" -Platoon

June 11th, 2010, 21:27	#13
Styrak Trader rating Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Saskatoon, SK	Did you read my post at all? __________________ Airsoft Sales and Repair/Upgrade Services

June 11th, 2010, 21:38	#14
Able1 Joeyaglr444 Trader rating Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Toronto Ontario	it was working with the broxa motor before, ill try reshimming again and im gettin an ics 3000 motor so hopefully itll work out. __________________ It's not about the guy who doesn't call his hit. It's about the pants you're wearing and the pants you're team mate is wearing, Is it real multi cam or is it Chinese repro multi cam? I don't know but in the end it's still multicam.

June 11th, 2010, 21:53	#15
Boyso a.k.a. LastSpartan Trader rating Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Québec city	It was working and it simply stopped working, or did you change something? __________________ NEW BACON FOR SALE! "WHEN I DIE BURY ME UPSIDE DOWN SO THE WORLD CAN KISS MY ASS" -Platoon

Ics M4 Motor engaging but not shooting.

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