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CaptainMurphy · August 8th, 2011, 13:50

I think the metal would not be able to weld. The TSC part claims to be 6061 but I am not believing that for a second. One pass with a 1/2" end mill and the chipping from it is completely different than a normal barstock 6061 as far as I can tell. I made a flat plate conversion for am AEG to use normal buffer tubes a couple years back and it worked fine with just machine screws holding the adapter in place. No reason that wouldn't work. All you would need is a threaded section on the part 66 to hold the buffer tube in place.

Ross · August 8th, 2011, 13:53

sounds reasonable.

deadlydayne · August 8th, 2011, 13:58

Yea, id say fairly crazy. Welding aluminum blows hard, both surfaces must be extremly clean or it will look ugly as sin. Its not like welding steel, its much harder to do. Part 66 is on an angle, cant remember exact degrees, but its milled at an angle so that when the stock folds it will latch onto the hook just behind ejection port. If I make this conversion kit it wont be folding (because your M4 stock wont latch anyways)

CaptainMurphy · August 9th, 2011, 12:18

http://store.carolinashooterssupply....GA-AK47/Detail

That is what you are looking for Ross.

I have been beating the crap our of my SCAR with training for the past couple of weeks using the new part 27 and the new part 66. Both are holding up quite well and have passed over 10k rounds each. One trainee fell on the SCAR with the stock extended and it held up to the fall pretty well. Seems the new parts are going to work out quite well.

I didn't have any issues at all with the installation on mine as far as hole alignment. The part 66 was out of spec but that was expected to happen.

deadlydayne · August 9th, 2011, 12:32

did any of the tabs bend on the 27? its one thing ive been worried about is people falling on their rifles...

CaptainMurphy · August 9th, 2011, 12:38

Nope. Tabs are still straight and level. It was a pretty big boy too. Probably 220lbs with about 60lbs of gear on him. He hit the doorway and his brain was 2 steps ahead of his feet. Next thing we saw was $300 of replica and $300 in optics hitting the ground under him. Thankfully we had a real C-more on it or a cheapo replica sight would have been crushed. From what I have seen so far I will expect the stock hinge point to crack long before the two CNC parts do any kind of damage during a fall. I'm sure we will see it hit the ground a few more times in the near future.

deadlydayne · August 9th, 2011, 12:47

Well thats good to hear, specially since the parts you got were proto's. Makes for great expectations

Ross · August 17th, 2011, 23:40

Well my scar is holding up ok. The steel bolt is a bit heavy though. Full auto jams sometimes. The screws that hold onto part 27 unscrewed themselves during a game. I lost one for good. Luckily the hardware store carried the perfect size. Except they are brass. O well. And the pin the connects part 66 to the stock rises up as the gun fires. I bought a 3 inch long 3/16 bolt and nut. Now I just got to paint it black. My inner barrel is a few inches too long. I think I'm just going to cut it down.

deadlydayne · August 17th, 2011, 23:42

Locktite my good friend solves all problems of screws backing out

Ross · August 17th, 2011, 23:44

Excelsior!

deadlydayne · December 12th, 2011, 23:40

For all who end up looking for this part It is now listed here>>> http://www.evike.com/product_info.php?products_id=37217

MadMax · December 13th, 2011, 03:58

Awesome work dude. Good to see your hard work at evike!

Ross · December 13th, 2011, 08:38

wow. Excellent. I haven't had any respect for evike until now.
I left a product review. I hope they approve it without me actually buying it off of their site.

Fox62 · December 13th, 2011, 19:15

Yeah, I'd write a review.
Useless-piece-of-misfitting-junk-that-set-me-back-60-bucks-and-still-sits-in-a-drawer. Never got it replaced, either. Nice touch, Deadly.
I hope Evike does better business on your behalf.

Fox.

Ross · December 13th, 2011, 19:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fox62

Yeah, I'd write a review.
Useless-piece-of-misfitting-junk-that-set-me-back-60-bucks-and-still-sits-in-a-drawer. Never got it replaced, either. Nice touch, Deadly.
I hope Evike does better business on your behalf.

Fox.

why don't you get it replaced then?

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August 8th, 2011, 13:50	#646
CaptainMurphy Trader rating Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Panama City, FL	I think the metal would not be able to weld. The TSC part claims to be 6061 but I am not believing that for a second. One pass with a 1/2" end mill and the chipping from it is completely different than a normal barstock 6061 as far as I can tell. I made a flat plate conversion for am AEG to use normal buffer tubes a couple years back and it worked fine with just machine screws holding the adapter in place. No reason that wouldn't work. All you would need is a threaded section on the part 66 to hold the buffer tube in place. __________________

August 8th, 2011, 13:53	#647
Ross Trader rating Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Winnipeg	sounds reasonable. __________________

August 9th, 2011, 12:18	#649
CaptainMurphy Trader rating Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Panama City, FL	http://store.carolinashooterssupply....GA-AK47/Detail That is what you are looking for Ross. I have been beating the crap our of my SCAR with training for the past couple of weeks using the new part 27 and the new part 66. Both are holding up quite well and have passed over 10k rounds each. One trainee fell on the SCAR with the stock extended and it held up to the fall pretty well. Seems the new parts are going to work out quite well. I didn't have any issues at all with the installation on mine as far as hole alignment. The part 66 was out of spec but that was expected to happen. __________________

August 8th, 2011, 13:58	#648
deadlydayne Trader rating Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Michigan, USA	Yea, id say fairly crazy. Welding aluminum blows hard, both surfaces must be extremly clean or it will look ugly as sin. Its not like welding steel, its much harder to do. Part 66 is on an angle, cant remember exact degrees, but its milled at an angle so that when the stock folds it will latch onto the hook just behind ejection port. If I make this conversion kit it wont be folding (because your M4 stock wont latch anyways)

August 9th, 2011, 12:32	#650
deadlydayne Trader rating Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Michigan, USA	did any of the tabs bend on the 27? its one thing ive been worried about is people falling on their rifles...

August 9th, 2011, 12:38	#651
CaptainMurphy Trader rating Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Panama City, FL	Nope. Tabs are still straight and level. It was a pretty big boy too. Probably 220lbs with about 60lbs of gear on him. He hit the doorway and his brain was 2 steps ahead of his feet. Next thing we saw was $300 of replica and $300 in optics hitting the ground under him. Thankfully we had a real C-more on it or a cheapo replica sight would have been crushed. From what I have seen so far I will expect the stock hinge point to crack long before the two CNC parts do any kind of damage during a fall. I'm sure we will see it hit the ground a few more times in the near future. __________________

August 9th, 2011, 12:47	#652
deadlydayne Trader rating Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Michigan, USA	Well thats good to hear, specially since the parts you got were proto's. Makes for great expectations

August 17th, 2011, 23:40	#653
Ross Trader rating Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Winnipeg	Well my scar is holding up ok. The steel bolt is a bit heavy though. Full auto jams sometimes. The screws that hold onto part 27 unscrewed themselves during a game. I lost one for good. Luckily the hardware store carried the perfect size. Except they are brass. O well. And the pin the connects part 66 to the stock rises up as the gun fires. I bought a 3 inch long 3/16 bolt and nut. Now I just got to paint it black. My inner barrel is a few inches too long. I think I'm just going to cut it down. __________________

August 17th, 2011, 23:42	#654
deadlydayne Trader rating Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Michigan, USA	Locktite my good friend solves all problems of screws backing out

August 17th, 2011, 23:44	#655
Ross Trader rating Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Winnipeg	Excelsior! __________________

December 12th, 2011, 23:40	#656
deadlydayne Trader rating Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Michigan, USA	For all who end up looking for this part It is now listed here>>> http://www.evike.com/product_info.php?products_id=37217

December 13th, 2011, 03:58	#657
MadMax Delierious Designer of Dastardly Detonations Trader rating Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: in the dark recesses of some metal chip filled machine shop	Awesome work dude. Good to see your hard work at evike! __________________ Want nearly free GBB gas?

December 13th, 2011, 08:38	#658
Ross Trader rating Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Winnipeg	wow. Excellent. I haven't had any respect for evike until now. I left a product review. I hope they approve it without me actually buying it off of their site. __________________

December 13th, 2011, 19:15	#659
Fox62 Banned Trader rating Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Buenos Aires, Argentina	Yeah, I'd write a review. Useless-piece-of-misfitting-junk-that-set-me-back-60-bucks-and-still-sits-in-a-drawer. Never got it replaced, either. Nice touch, Deadly. I hope Evike does better business on your behalf. Fox.

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