Inokatsu M4 GBB

tunabreath · June 12th, 2008, 11:42

Well, you can't have the gas in the buffer tube with this design, since the buffer tube is... well, a buffer tube. It's a functional mechanism of the gun, not an empty space like on an AEG.

If it were a full size M16, there's potential to put the gas in the full stock and hand guard (there are classic designs that do this), but an M4 with any kind of adjustable stock or railed front end? Not so much space. I also like gas in mag in that if there's a problem, most of the time you can switch mags and be good to go, as well as having fresh (cooldown free) gas any time you reload.

Of course, the greatest thing would be if there were mags that ran on 12g CO2, with the regulator built into the mag (adjustable even?) like the KWC Micro Uzi. That would mean cheaper mags (since it needs a MUCH smaller gas reservoir with the bulk of the pressure being taken up by the 12g cartridge itself) at the cost of more expensive refills and less cooldown compared to duster or propane (less CO2 required to achieve same performance because of higher pressure = less expansion = less cooldown, right?).

Lakonian · June 12th, 2008, 12:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by TokyoSeven

They like the polls.

I like polls.

I still think that GBB AR from K1custom (user on youtube) is going to be better.

Real-steel upper + bullet proof internals = win.

Ronan · June 12th, 2008, 12:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by kos

I like polls.

I still think that GBB AR from K1custom (user on youtube) is going to be better.

Real-steel upper + bullet proof internals = win.

Big price difference also. You can't really compare a $600 platform to a $1500 platform.

Jiggiwatt · June 12th, 2008, 12:48

Didn't see it mentioned yet, but since you asked...

Doesn't Tanio Koba make an AK-74SU blowback ?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NvkUomotUF0

Ronan · June 12th, 2008, 13:20

TK make a lot of cool stuff, to bad we never seem able to buy any of them...

aZn_triXta07 · June 12th, 2008, 13:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by ancorp

I know of zero that can match the realism of the WA, care to enlighten me?

I'm not sure of realism on all of them except maybe one.

Tanio Koba AK GBB
LA Studios AK ($2000-2500)
AFC AK GBB ($1500)
Escort AK

ancorp · June 12th, 2008, 13:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jiggiwatt

Didn't see it mentioned yet, but since you asked...

Doesn't Tanio Koba make an AK-74SU blowback ?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NvkUomotUF0

Look closely at the youtube username

And aZn, as far as I know, none of them are even close to the realism WA has internally. And yes, they're expensive as hell. And yes, I'd love to own one of each.

aZn_triXta07 · June 12th, 2008, 13:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by ancorp

And aZn, as far as I know, none of them are even close to the realism WA has internally. And yes, they're expensive as hell. And yes, I'd love to own one of each.

Too bad WA will only make ABS receivers and grips =/

I just spoke with a friend in Japan, he says the Tanio Koba C8 Canadian rocks the WA M4 apparently but it's custom order only and is real pricey, was also told both guns are not really skirmish guns.

wildcard · June 12th, 2008, 18:26

As a proud owner of four of Inokatsu products I would definitely buy their M4 GBB, their M60 and AKM/S are by far the best one out there.

Now if only they make a M82 Barrett!!!

aZn_triXta07 · June 12th, 2008, 20:18

I'll see how the feedback goes for the Inokatsu M4 GBB.

Otherwise I'm debating on grabbing myself an Escort M4A1 and than have the magwell modified to take Systema M4 Magazines.

Styrak · June 12th, 2008, 20:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by aZn_triXta07

I'll see how the feedback goes for the Inokatsu M4 GBB.

Otherwise I'm debating on grabbing myself an Escort M4A1 and than have the magwell modified to take Systema M4 Magazines.

Why do you want to pay way more for mags?

aZn_triXta07 · June 12th, 2008, 20:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by Styrak

Why do you want to pay way more for mags?

Systema mags feed better, have the same weight as real steel mags I think that's enough of a reason to get them :P

Lakonian · June 12th, 2008, 22:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ronan

Big price difference also. You can't really compare a $600 platform to a $1500 platform.

Not talking about the WA garbage

The Lettonian · June 12th, 2008, 23:47

too rich for my blood...but DAMN is it sexy!

Ronan · June 13th, 2008, 00:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by kos

Not talking about the WA garbage

WA isn't garbage, if you actually tried one you would know.

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June 12th, 2008, 11:42	#31
tunabreath Trader rating Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Edmonton, AB	Well, you can't have the gas in the buffer tube with this design, since the buffer tube is... well, a buffer tube. It's a functional mechanism of the gun, not an empty space like on an AEG. If it were a full size M16, there's potential to put the gas in the full stock and hand guard (there are classic designs that do this), but an M4 with any kind of adjustable stock or railed front end? Not so much space. I also like gas in mag in that if there's a problem, most of the time you can switch mags and be good to go, as well as having fresh (cooldown free) gas any time you reload. Of course, the greatest thing would be if there were mags that ran on 12g CO2, with the regulator built into the mag (adjustable even?) like the KWC Micro Uzi. That would mean cheaper mags (since it needs a MUCH smaller gas reservoir with the bulk of the pressure being taken up by the 12g cartridge itself) at the cost of more expensive refills and less cooldown compared to duster or propane (less CO2 required to achieve same performance because of higher pressure = less expansion = less cooldown, right?). __________________ Vita, Passione e Pistole

June 12th, 2008, 12:48	#34
Jiggiwatt Trader rating Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Ottawa, ON	Didn't see it mentioned yet, but since you asked... Doesn't Tanio Koba make an AK-74SU blowback ? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NvkUomotUF0 __________________ "You want to talk to God ? Let's go see him together, I haven't got anything better to do."

June 12th, 2008, 18:26	#39
wildcard Trader rating Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: In my man cave	As a proud owner of four of Inokatsu products I would definitely buy their M4 GBB, their M60 and AKM/S are by far the best one out there. Now if only they make a M82 Barrett!!!

June 12th, 2008, 20:18	#40
aZn_triXta07 Trader rating Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Toronto, Ontario	I'll see how the feedback goes for the Inokatsu M4 GBB. Otherwise I'm debating on grabbing myself an Escort M4A1 and than have the magwell modified to take Systema M4 Magazines.

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