Review - ICS M4 BIBLE: Problems and Fixes

relativity · February 22nd, 2005, 01:01

thx for the info ert.

where could i buy the top half of the gear box?

could someone make a list of things we could upgrade on this gun (internals and externals)?

Cortexburn · February 22nd, 2005, 01:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by relativity

thx for the info ert.

where could i buy the top half of the gear box?

could someone make a list of things we could upgrade on this gun (internals and externals)?

I'm getting the upgraded upper through DEA.

rellik · February 22nd, 2005, 05:03

The systema hopup will fit, but it requires a bit of grinding down on the piece to fit. Details are in Filairsoft.

toelessfoot: I believe the serial numbers are unique.

ert: Have you fixed the cutoff lever problem?

thorvald · February 22nd, 2005, 08:34

So how can you actually tell the difference between a V1 and a V2?

Vince had what he was told was a V2 ICS M4 in his shop but when I looked at it, it had "ICS" markings on the Magwell...

Tru had what he was told was a V2 ICS M4 and it had "Olympic Arms" on the Magwell...

Both looked exactly the same otherwise.

Now I assume that anything marked ICS is V1 and anything marked OA is V2...

Can anyone confirm this?

Blastyman · February 22nd, 2005, 10:27

I thought the Olympic arms was the first release but I cannot confirm this at the moment.

relativity · March 3rd, 2005, 00:12

where could i get the top part of the gear box?

Cortexburn · March 3rd, 2005, 00:38

I ordered an upgraded on that you can find on the ICS website. I have it ordered through DEA.

relativity · March 4th, 2005, 16:12

thx for the info.

ert · March 29th, 2005, 21:42

Edited the original post a bit to reflect some of the issues that have been addressed and fixed.

As a note for those looking to upgrade their guns I'll post what I'm currently running in mine without any problems:

Systema Cylinder Head
Systema Piston Head
Guarder Spring Guide w/Bearing
Guarder Air Seal Nozzle
PDI 140% spring
Systema Bushings
KM TN Tighbore inner barrel
9.6V 1700Mah Nunchuck Battery

I had an EG1000 in it for a while but switched back to the ICS T2000 because of the pinion gear differences.

Mark

JoeyJackhammer · March 29th, 2005, 23:42

also to add to list, Guarder reinforced outter barrel, fit without modification, truely a dream to put on. Reason for the barrel upgrade is because the little screws on my stock OB stripped, but I highly recommend the barrel from guarder, really adds alot to the already kick ass platform of the ICS.

Coming soon.... TM RIS installation

P.S - I didn't me to impose on your list, ert, but I think that if we all contribute a little, we can make a nice list of compatible parts.

D_oo_S · March 30th, 2005, 00:17

I have a Guarder sp110 and Systema bushings plus a 9.6v 1700 Butter fly battery. This put the gun right up to 397FPS

ert · March 30th, 2005, 01:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by JoeyJackhammer

P.S - I didn't me to impose on your list, ert, but I think that if we all contribute a little, we can make a nice list of compatible parts.

Lol feel free, that's what this thread is for

It's not all my material anyways. I just gathered info and put it here. Everyone else can feel free as well.

xavierthegreat1 · April 2nd, 2005, 04:09

I am now very curious about this whole version 1 version 2 thing. I have the version without the olympic arms trades. however it has a gearbox that was pulled from one WITH olypic arms trades. are olympics arms version any better than the other version? I am basically asking, should I replace some things that could be crap compares to the other version?

ert · April 3rd, 2005, 01:40

If I were you, I'd just check on the screw problem at the back of the gearbox. I have a feeling that it'll all be good, but if no, then there's an easy fix for you. Everything else should be the same as the other versions.

Cortexburn · April 5th, 2005, 18:11

Couldn't figure out why my gun was only shooting 265....turns out my spring guide is busted. Damn it....I also fit a TM mag catch and it didn't fix anything...I had to bend out the magazine for the catch to work. That sucks also.

With luck I might get to use the damn thing soon......

I'm sticking in a PDI 150 once I get a new piston and piston head.
I'm going to keep the ICS motor in, I like a loud gun......

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February 22nd, 2005, 05:03	#33
rellik Trader rating Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Vancouver, BC	The systema hopup will fit, but it requires a bit of grinding down on the piece to fit. Details are in Filairsoft. toelessfoot: I believe the serial numbers are unique. ert: Have you fixed the cutoff lever problem? __________________ Check out my rating (100+ Positive)

March 3rd, 2005, 00:38	#37
Cortexburn Miserable Bastard Trader rating Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Red Deer, Alberta	I ordered an upgraded on that you can find on the ICS website. I have it ordered through DEA. __________________ My Buy/Sell Rating. “We cannot defend freedom abroad by deserting it at home.” Thomas Jefferson I hate Ghillie suits. Socialism SUCKS www.unisevil.com

March 29th, 2005, 21:42	#39
ert Trader rating Join Date: Jul 2003	Edited the original post a bit to reflect some of the issues that have been addressed and fixed. As a note for those looking to upgrade their guns I'll post what I'm currently running in mine without any problems: Systema Cylinder Head Systema Piston Head Guarder Spring Guide w/Bearing Guarder Air Seal Nozzle PDI 140% spring Systema Bushings KM TN Tighbore inner barrel 9.6V 1700Mah Nunchuck Battery I had an EG1000 in it for a while but switched back to the ICS T2000 because of the pinion gear differences. Mark __________________ E Nomini Patri, E Fili, E Spiritu Sancti My Old ASC Buy/Sell Rating

February 22nd, 2005, 01:01	#31
relativity Trader rating Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Scarborough, Ontario, Canada.	thx for the info ert. where could i buy the top half of the gear box? could someone make a list of things we could upgrade on this gun (internals and externals)?

February 22nd, 2005, 08:34	#34
thorvald Trader rating Join Date: Dec 2004	So how can you actually tell the difference between a V1 and a V2? Vince had what he was told was a V2 ICS M4 in his shop but when I looked at it, it had "ICS" markings on the Magwell... Tru had what he was told was a V2 ICS M4 and it had "Olympic Arms" on the Magwell... Both looked exactly the same otherwise. Now I assume that anything marked ICS is V1 and anything marked OA is V2... Can anyone confirm this?

February 22nd, 2005, 10:27	#35
Blastyman Trader rating Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Edmonton ,AB	I thought the Olympic arms was the first release but I cannot confirm this at the moment.

March 3rd, 2005, 00:12	#36
relativity Trader rating Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Scarborough, Ontario, Canada.	where could i get the top part of the gear box?

March 4th, 2005, 16:12	#38
relativity Trader rating Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Scarborough, Ontario, Canada.	thx for the info.

March 29th, 2005, 23:42	#40
JoeyJackhammer Trader rating Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Moose Jaw, SK	also to add to list, Guarder reinforced outter barrel, fit without modification, truely a dream to put on. Reason for the barrel upgrade is because the little screws on my stock OB stripped, but I highly recommend the barrel from guarder, really adds alot to the already kick ass platform of the ICS. Coming soon.... TM RIS installation P.S - I didn't me to impose on your list, ert, but I think that if we all contribute a little, we can make a nice list of compatible parts. __________________

March 30th, 2005, 00:17	#41
D_oo_S Trader rating Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: victoria BC	I have a Guarder sp110 and Systema bushings plus a 9.6v 1700 Butter fly battery. This put the gun right up to 397FPS __________________ User rating: http://www.airsoftcanada.com/viewtopic.php?t=33945

April 2nd, 2005, 04:09	#43
xavierthegreat1 Trader rating Join Date: Apr 2005	I am now very curious about this whole version 1 version 2 thing. I have the version without the olympic arms trades. however it has a gearbox that was pulled from one WITH olypic arms trades. are olympics arms version any better than the other version? I am basically asking, should I replace some things that could be crap compares to the other version?

April 3rd, 2005, 01:40	#44
ert Trader rating Join Date: Jul 2003	If I were you, I'd just check on the screw problem at the back of the gearbox. I have a feeling that it'll all be good, but if no, then there's an easy fix for you. Everything else should be the same as the other versions. __________________ E Nomini Patri, E Fili, E Spiritu Sancti My Old ASC Buy/Sell Rating

April 5th, 2005, 18:11	#45
Cortexburn Miserable Bastard Trader rating Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Red Deer, Alberta	Couldn't figure out why my gun was only shooting 265....turns out my spring guide is busted. Damn it....I also fit a TM mag catch and it didn't fix anything...I had to bend out the magazine for the catch to work. That sucks also. With luck I might get to use the damn thing soon...... I'm sticking in a PDI 150 once I get a new piston and piston head. I'm going to keep the ICS motor in, I like a loud gun...... __________________ My Buy/Sell Rating. “We cannot defend freedom abroad by deserting it at home.” Thomas Jefferson I hate Ghillie suits. Socialism SUCKS www.unisevil.com

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