Building guns?

[Mantelope]

Originally Posted by Talraga

well maybe I'm wron, but I think the lack of overseas shipping prices and high-quality Airsoft guns made in Canada for cheaper compared to TM would apeal to a crowed of gamers that can't afford TMs, I'm talking about guns that are $200-$300 CAD rather than $300-$600

This is not meant as a flame, but what makes you think guns could be produced here for $2-300? Do you have any experience with manufacturing?

[AirsoftTechGeek]

If you had rea the whole thing you would have seen that he has found most of the parts other places and will not need to manufacter very many if any pieces

[Mantelope]

Originally Posted by AirsoftTechGeek

If you had rea the whole thing you would have seen that he has found most of the parts other places and will not need to manufacter very many if any pieces

You mean he's visited a hardware store, and is apparently good at scrounging. Additionally, you're a hell of a hypocrite for accusing me of not reading.

[Greylocks]

Originally Posted by AirsoftTechGeek

If you had rea the whole thing you would have seen that he has found most of the parts other places and will not need to manufacter very many if any pieces

One last clue; this is not the United States. We have far different laws here. Business laws, criminal laws, weapons laws, and regulations about who can manufacture guns or replicas of any kind.

Will you Please stop typing advice that does not apply, makes no sense, or is plain illegal here?
Or a simpler idea: stop typing?
If you want to learn about machining anything, airsoft included, go to SCHOOL! I supposed there are some of those in the US?

[Grim Fandango]

So let me get this straight:

Step 1: Make a business to make high quality airsoft guns in Canada at an affordable price

Step 2:

Step 3: Profit

Making an airsoft gun from scratch is no easy project. And i'm still lost on you finding stuff at hardware stores.. I mean ok you found trigger parts and a pump.. are you also going to buy airsoft gun receivers and stocks from home depot too. If you plan on building a gun you're going to have to manufacturer almost everything from scratch.

[Greenwolf]

you guys seem to have misread at least one of my points here: I asked for your opinion about a airsoft company in canada NOT MADE BY ME.. As in: what would you think if someone (anyone) made an airsoft company in canada that could compete with TM on the North American market?

Yes I am thinking of building and selling airsoft guns, but that will take a huge amount of time to build up. I'm asking for your opinion on weather you would like a Canadian Airsoft company, even if I'm unsucessfull in building my own. I'm thinking currently of trying to build one AEG to see if I can do it and if I can do it for less than buying a TM gun.

IF I am sucessful and IF I can make more of them I'll see about getting a permit. Until then, don't hold your breath.

[shbadmintonclub]

You should plan how much it's going to cost you (expenses), how much profit you are targeting, then of course, the chances of this happening (market). Then, just like any manufacturing business (ex cars), prototype is a must. If you got all the above planned out, start out by making out one prototype. If quality of that sucks, then there's no point to continue.

[pizzainthemorning]

In short - a good project, hope we have decent, well priced Canadian made airsoft guns one day that have a big god damn stamp that says "Made In CANADA".

Long - I said a project. I think someone with the right resources and know how could set this up as a business, however, I also think for the average person who likes just that, a project, and is technically inclined, building your own gun from scratch (more or less) is a cool idea. Without the proper setup I think it would be difficult to mass produce things, but to build a couple for personal use just for fun, well, that's an idea that's crossed my head many a time. When you're done you can look at it and say with satisfaction "ahhh... I built that...." even if it's not perfect. I think it could be fun and challenging, so while IF you were interested in starting up a business I'd advise against it for now, it would still be neat to make your own stuff for personal gaming. I don't care what you guys say, one of these days I'm making myself a DeLisle Carbine and it's going to be some sweet sugar. Good luck and don't shoot your eye out.

Alex

[Greenwolf]

Originally Posted by shbadmintonclub

start out by making out one prototype. If quality of that sucks, then there's no point to continue.

Exactly, I'm gonna see if it's possible before I waste time and money trying to set up a buisness... if I can do it with one, scrounged-up gun, chances are I can do it again once I manage to work up enough money to get better tools/equipment.

As for the legal side? the cops don't have to know about the prototype since it's for private use.

[firemachine69]

How the hell is this not in the trash already?

[AirsoftTechGeek]

This is only three hours old it seems to take alot longer than that for something to get put in the trash

[Grim Fandango]

Originally Posted by AirsoftTechGeek

This is only three hours old it seems to take alot longer than that for something to get put in the trash

Wow, now you're telling us how OUR forums work... you really are an idiot aren't you.

I've seen posts trashed within minutes, if not faster. So no, once again you are wrong.

[Greenwolf]

hold on guys I don't want my thread to become a flame war, I'd rather have a nice, civil debate about the merits of a Canadian Airsoft Company and building your own guns. I know I'm not a moderator, but if you have a beef with AirsoftTechGeek, please take it somewhere else.

[thephenom]

Originally Posted by Talraga

well maybe I'm wron, but I think the lack of overseas shipping prices and high-quality Airsoft guns made in Canada for cheaper compared to TM would apeal to a crowed of gamers that can't afford TMs, I'm talking about guns that are $200-$300 CAD rather than $300-$600

IF you could match or get close to TM quality. Yes, you'll completely drive out the $400+ guns out of the market. And YES, people will buy them IF you can machine similar quality and performance to TM and CA.

But I think the general problem here is, you're 19, and you lack the expertise with airsoft as well as manufacturing, so others will perceive you're just talking the talk and can't walk the walk.

If you wanted support or help from the community, you should at least have a business plan or outline on how you plan to implement each process.
ie.
1. Buy raw material from X for body, mechbox, retail package, etc
2. Build body at Factory Y where you outsource to
3. Build mech box at Manufacturing Facility Z
4. Put together gun at factory A
5. Package Gun at factory A
6. Ship package to retailers via courier B

Something like that. If you have done some research on the cost of the parts and labour, in Canada will cost you more than your expect $200-300, not to mention you still gotta cut some of that for retailers.

Yes, you can source the spring or piston, but who's going to mold the body and mechbox for you, etc etc.

If you want to do Market Research on people's opinion on buying a CDN Airsoft, you gotta know how much it'll cost you first before offering people $200-300 for an airsoft.

[Greenwolf]

I'm mearly getting peoples initial impressions, nothing more. Yah I know I'm 19, I have a long way to go before this could ever posibly become a reality. This is not a sales pitch, nor is it a promise of cheap guns. It is mearly an Idea, and me asking the community what they think of an Idea and looking for mature, responisble, and helpful feedback. In that regard, I thank you.