1-4 times optic?

lurkingknight · March 16th, 2017, 14:13

difference in price is not just the glass, but also the tube and the weight of the optic overall. The glass on my accushot at 200$ is sufficient for airsoft and probably good enough for a real AR given that's what the scope is meant for. The drawback is that with a mount you're looking at almost 2 pounds.

A vortex viper weighs almost half of that, has better clarity, better eye relief and almost no distortion. You also don't see the tube at all when you look through it. But it's also a 700$ scope.

The problem with buying low end is that you don't know the kind of quality you will get, sight unseen. 200$ is a lot to gamble on an optic that might not work out, which is why I've recommended the accushot. Several other players have bought the exact scope I have and also agree for the price that it is a very good deal if you can get it at the 200$ mark when it comes on sale on amazon. The regular price is something like 300 after taxes and shipping. I also looked for a good month at all the other options around the 200-300$ price range and all the review are somewhat similar.. heavy, questionable eye relief. If you still don't know what the difference is, buy a shitty visionking and take it to cabelas or sail or basspro and compare it side by side with something that has similar magnification. Most magnified optics sold to airsofters will not even compare, it is a waste of your money to even consider magnified optics under 200$ and everything else unless you've looked through it yourself is a gamble because most realsteel shooters will have something nicer.

I'm working on a gun right now for a client, he left his 4x acog on it, the sight picture is cloudy and grey through the glass. You can barely see anything through it, on top of having a knife edge eyerelief where you either hit the spot right and get a picture or you get nothing but blackness of the tube. And if you try to move with the rifle shouldered, you lose the picture.

DuffMan · March 16th, 2017, 15:09

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Originally Posted by Dumblins

I got to admit I was staying back but I got a long barrel (12")

Kids these days. Dude, a service-length C7/M16 barrel is 20".

Dumblins · March 16th, 2017, 16:04

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Originally Posted by DuffMan

Kids these days. Dude, a service-length C7/M16 barrel is 20".

I know, old man, but I'd rather play CQB with a MP5 or something meant for CQB. :innocent:

lurkingknight · March 17th, 2017, 01:01

pssh... I play field with my cqb guns and rape. airsoft is not about barrel length. Everything is limited to output Joules. The barrels aren't rifled and there's no gyroscopic stabilization of the projectile in flight. There's backspin to create lift to keep it flying longer but the precision is from the airseal and the straightness of the bore.

Dumblins · March 17th, 2017, 10:28

I never said it was impossible to do. It's just a personal preference that's all. I'd rather play with a CQB gun on a field than to play CQB with a long barrel gun. It's just a matter of personal taste

Now back to the topic, I'll go check out some optics tonight and see what they got in store. I hope this will help me figure out what's best suited for me !

Dumblins · March 19th, 2017, 20:14

So I went to my local shop and I ended up trying NCStars red dots and a Holosun. I ended going with the Holosun because of the quality compared to NCStars' models. Lot less parallax effect on it, better red dot luminosity and "sharpness", less reflections in the glasses, etc.

I tried one NCStar scope and it sucked. I had a real hard time getting the eye relief and to get a clear image. Also it's way bigger than I expected so I think the red dot was the best option here even though it cost me more.

Thanks for your advices people !

DuffMan · April 30th, 2017, 20:40

Anyone know where I can get a lexan lens protector custom made?

lurkingknight · April 30th, 2017, 23:19

buy one of the airsoft ones, toss the shitty plexi lense it comes with and go to a plastics manufacturer and ask them to cut you some appropriate shapes in 3/8" inch lexan/polycarbonate. 1/4" might do as well. It will cost a bit.. but you probably won't have to replace it like the shitty airsoft ones. You'll need to drill the screw holes yourself to mount it to the rail mount, but it'll be much nicer.

I run the speedsoft shield, it's quite thick but I'm reasonably sure it's plexi and not polycarb.

daishi · April 30th, 2017, 23:27

Go to home depot and buy a lexan sheet for like 20 bucks.

Cut your own.

ThunderCactus · May 1st, 2017, 00:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by lurkingknight

appropriate shapes in 3/8" inch lexan/polycarbonate. 1/4" might do as well. It will cost a bit.

3/32" of polycabronate would be enough, 1/8" will give you >4j impact protection easily.
3/8" is getting real close to stopping real bullets.

Keep in mind our polycarbonate ballistic glasses are only 2-3mm thick.

DuffMan · May 1st, 2017, 02:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by daishi

Go to home depot and buy a lexan sheet for like 20 bucks.

Cut your own.

I've purchased an Eotech lexan protector for $9.

lurkingknight · May 1st, 2017, 09:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThunderCactus

3/32" of polycabronate would be enough, 1/8" will give you >4j impact protection easily.
3/8" is getting real close to stopping real bullets.

Keep in mind our polycarbonate ballistic glasses are only 2-3mm thick.

ah well then, the claims of the chinese airsoft shields being polycarb are false then because I'm pretty sure they're thicker than 3/32.

Danke · May 2nd, 2017, 00:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by DuffMan

Anyone know where I can get a lexan lens protector custom made?

For what?

We had Bruce on here making awesome ones but he seems to be gone/retired.

DuffMan · May 2nd, 2017, 00:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danke

For what?

We had Bruce on here making awesome ones but he seems to be gone/retired.

Just a round 24mm objective

Danke · May 2nd, 2017, 13:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by DuffMan

Just a round 24mm objective

One of these?

http://www.midwayusa.com/product/178...lection-device

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March 16th, 2017, 14:13	#31
lurkingknight "bb bukakke" KING! Trader rating Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Ottawa	difference in price is not just the glass, but also the tube and the weight of the optic overall. The glass on my accushot at 200$ is sufficient for airsoft and probably good enough for a real AR given that's what the scope is meant for. The drawback is that with a mount you're looking at almost 2 pounds. A vortex viper weighs almost half of that, has better clarity, better eye relief and almost no distortion. You also don't see the tube at all when you look through it. But it's also a 700$ scope. The problem with buying low end is that you don't know the kind of quality you will get, sight unseen. 200$ is a lot to gamble on an optic that might not work out, which is why I've recommended the accushot. Several other players have bought the exact scope I have and also agree for the price that it is a very good deal if you can get it at the 200$ mark when it comes on sale on amazon. The regular price is something like 300 after taxes and shipping. I also looked for a good month at all the other options around the 200-300$ price range and all the review are somewhat similar.. heavy, questionable eye relief. If you still don't know what the difference is, buy a shitty visionking and take it to cabelas or sail or basspro and compare it side by side with something that has similar magnification. Most magnified optics sold to airsofters will not even compare, it is a waste of your money to even consider magnified optics under 200$ and everything else unless you've looked through it yourself is a gamble because most realsteel shooters will have something nicer. I'm working on a gun right now for a client, he left his 4x acog on it, the sight picture is cloudy and grey through the glass. You can barely see anything through it, on top of having a knife edge eyerelief where you either hit the spot right and get a picture or you get nothing but blackness of the tube. And if you try to move with the rifle shouldered, you lose the picture. __________________ I futz with V2s, V3s and V6s. I could be wrong... but probably, most likely not, as far as I know.

March 17th, 2017, 01:01	#34
lurkingknight "bb bukakke" KING! Trader rating Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Ottawa	pssh... I play field with my cqb guns and rape. airsoft is not about barrel length. Everything is limited to output Joules. The barrels aren't rifled and there's no gyroscopic stabilization of the projectile in flight. There's backspin to create lift to keep it flying longer but the precision is from the airseal and the straightness of the bore. __________________ I futz with V2s, V3s and V6s. I could be wrong... but probably, most likely not, as far as I know.

April 30th, 2017, 20:40	#37
DuffMan Trader rating Join Date: Feb 2004	Anyone know where I can get a lexan lens protector custom made? __________________ "He resisted. I asked him to comply." "Telling him to 'eat it, bitch' is not really a request."

March 17th, 2017, 10:28	#35
Dumblins Trader rating Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: Laurentides	I never said it was impossible to do. It's just a personal preference that's all. I'd rather play with a CQB gun on a field than to play CQB with a long barrel gun. It's just a matter of personal taste Now back to the topic, I'll go check out some optics tonight and see what they got in store. I hope this will help me figure out what's best suited for me !

March 19th, 2017, 20:14	#36
Dumblins Trader rating Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: Laurentides	So I went to my local shop and I ended up trying NCStars red dots and a Holosun. I ended going with the Holosun because of the quality compared to NCStars' models. Lot less parallax effect on it, better red dot luminosity and "sharpness", less reflections in the glasses, etc. I tried one NCStar scope and it sucked. I had a real hard time getting the eye relief and to get a clear image. Also it's way bigger than I expected so I think the red dot was the best option here even though it cost me more. Thanks for your advices people !

April 30th, 2017, 23:19	#38
lurkingknight "bb bukakke" KING! Trader rating Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Ottawa	buy one of the airsoft ones, toss the shitty plexi lense it comes with and go to a plastics manufacturer and ask them to cut you some appropriate shapes in 3/8" inch lexan/polycarbonate. 1/4" might do as well. It will cost a bit.. but you probably won't have to replace it like the shitty airsoft ones. You'll need to drill the screw holes yourself to mount it to the rail mount, but it'll be much nicer. I run the speedsoft shield, it's quite thick but I'm reasonably sure it's plexi and not polycarb. __________________ I futz with V2s, V3s and V6s. I could be wrong... but probably, most likely not, as far as I know.

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