Src M4

mcguyver · November 21st, 2005, 03:06

sorry, i'm not sure what the differences are as this was the first src m4 i got intimate with. it had some potential issues, but for under 300 bucks i didn't expect too much. i was suprised by the mechbox though, being a reinforced job.

i scanned a copy of the "options" catalogue into my computer but couldn't post it up here (too old to learn new computer tricks). it shows 2 models of m4, 1 with crane stock and 1 without. the unit i worked on has a 6 position stock.

sam0182 · November 21st, 2005, 10:50

Mmk...I'll back track and try to find the source that I saw the batch info on?

Trader rating · November 21st, 2005, 10:54

prolly a good gun for field rentals

firemachine69 · November 21st, 2005, 11:01

Would you guys pick this or the UTG MP5 up?

Whenever either of these hit the buy/sell, I'm buying one for the sole purpose of fawking around with it, and just playing stupid.

Killing two hundred bucks, I can live with.

Killing six hundred (cost of my ICS), I'll be shedding a few tears.

Trader rating · November 21st, 2005, 11:12

prolly the MP5
same thing, but without the M4 barrel wobble

sam0182 · November 21st, 2005, 11:25

I'd go M4...higher stock FPS, more value, etc...

Costs more though and you only get the M4 and a 300 round HiCap. The UTG comes w/two mags, battery, charger, you know the deal...

twsmith · November 22nd, 2005, 00:35

I'm new to airsoft but I bought both the UTG MP5 and the SRC M4. From the shooting I've been doing with both I can say that I prefer the M4. It definitely shoots noticeably harder and the finish is nicer (ie. the fire selector switch works nice and tight on the M4, and a bit sloppy on the MP5 and the plastic rear sight on the MP5 is pretty cheap). I have noticed the barrel wobble on the M4, but from what I've heard the TM's have the same problem. The price difference was significant though as I paid $249 plus tax for the MP5 and it came with the battery, charger, 2 mags and both a collapsible and fixed stock; while I paid $299 plus tax for the M4 and one mag. I paid an additional $159 for a starter pack for the M4 which included a spare hicap mag, smart charger, battery and some BB's.

I chose to go with the UTG and SRC guns as I was on a budget and I wanted to get 2 guns so my wife could come out to a game if she wanted. After playing around with both for the past couple weeks I kind of wish I'd spent the extra couple hundred bucks and just bought 2 of the SRC M4's.

That's my 2 cents, for what it's worth. But I still haven't had them out in the field so I have no idea what kind of reliability to expect.

Wayne

mcguyver · November 22nd, 2005, 01:02

hey wayne how have you found the hop-up on the src? just curious.

twsmith · November 24th, 2005, 12:46

I haven't tried adjusting it yet. I was switching between the MP5 and the M4 and I could definitely see the BB's curving with the MP5 so I adjusted the hop-up on it, but the M4 was shooting pretty flat at the same range (about 50 ft) so I didn't want to mess with it.

The MP5 hop up is really easy to adjust, but I had a really wild shot with the MP5 while shooting indoors because of that. While installing the battery, I must have pushed the hop-up lever, because I put a nice dent in the living room drywall about 3 feet higher than the target and my backstop. The wife wasn't very happy about that.

Dro · November 25th, 2005, 18:24

Can someone tell me if it is compatible with TM mags, Star mags, or CA mags? And can someone post some detailed pictures please?

Thanks.

mcguyver · November 25th, 2005, 21:05

yes it is.

bean · December 6th, 2005, 15:48

From what im reading the internals suck ass in these. Can any of you verify that? I was reading posts about the crane stock ones too and they didnt look to good. They say the gears basically chew themselves up. No big deal really just need to order some new gears im just wondering so i know if i have to.

mcguyver · December 6th, 2005, 19:55

gears are exact copy of tm. mechbox was a reinforced 6mm in the one i worked on barely 2 weeks ago. bushings are abs as well as the cylinder head. those are the only things to really change out as a matter of reliability. the spring, spring guide, cylinder, switch are basically tm. the piston is different as the piston head screw is easily removable without that pesky cap that tm uses. they used good lube throughout and the one i worked on was well shimmed.

gamer123 · December 6th, 2005, 21:27

imo it seems utg mp5 is better deal (for usa's price of $100) with all the stuff mp5 comes with...moreover m4 is just overly common nowadays

bean · December 6th, 2005, 22:35

Are the gears as strong as tm's. The main problem im hearing is them eating themselves apart.

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November 21st, 2005, 03:06	#31
mcguyver Trader rating Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Northern Alberta	sorry, i'm not sure what the differences are as this was the first src m4 i got intimate with. it had some potential issues, but for under 300 bucks i didn't expect too much. i was suprised by the mechbox though, being a reinforced job. i scanned a copy of the "options" catalogue into my computer but couldn't post it up here (too old to learn new computer tricks). it shows 2 models of m4, 1 with crane stock and 1 without. the unit i worked on has a 6 position stock.

November 21st, 2005, 10:50	#32
sam0182 Trader rating Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: BC	Mmk...I'll back track and try to find the source that I saw the batch info on?

November 21st, 2005, 10:54	#33
Droc Guest Trader rating	prolly a good gun for field rentals

November 21st, 2005, 11:12	#35
Droc Guest Trader rating	prolly the MP5 same thing, but without the M4 barrel wobble

November 21st, 2005, 11:25	#36
sam0182 Trader rating Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: BC	I'd go M4...higher stock FPS, more value, etc... Costs more though and you only get the M4 and a 300 round HiCap. The UTG comes w/two mags, battery, charger, you know the deal...

November 22nd, 2005, 00:35	#37
twsmith Trader rating Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Sicamous	I'm new to airsoft but I bought both the UTG MP5 and the SRC M4. From the shooting I've been doing with both I can say that I prefer the M4. It definitely shoots noticeably harder and the finish is nicer (ie. the fire selector switch works nice and tight on the M4, and a bit sloppy on the MP5 and the plastic rear sight on the MP5 is pretty cheap). I have noticed the barrel wobble on the M4, but from what I've heard the TM's have the same problem. The price difference was significant though as I paid $249 plus tax for the MP5 and it came with the battery, charger, 2 mags and both a collapsible and fixed stock; while I paid $299 plus tax for the M4 and one mag. I paid an additional $159 for a starter pack for the M4 which included a spare hicap mag, smart charger, battery and some BB's. I chose to go with the UTG and SRC guns as I was on a budget and I wanted to get 2 guns so my wife could come out to a game if she wanted. After playing around with both for the past couple weeks I kind of wish I'd spent the extra couple hundred bucks and just bought 2 of the SRC M4's. That's my 2 cents, for what it's worth. But I still haven't had them out in the field so I have no idea what kind of reliability to expect. Wayne

November 22nd, 2005, 01:02	#38
mcguyver Trader rating Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Northern Alberta	hey wayne how have you found the hop-up on the src? just curious.

November 24th, 2005, 12:46	#39
twsmith Trader rating Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Sicamous	I haven't tried adjusting it yet. I was switching between the MP5 and the M4 and I could definitely see the BB's curving with the MP5 so I adjusted the hop-up on it, but the M4 was shooting pretty flat at the same range (about 50 ft) so I didn't want to mess with it. The MP5 hop up is really easy to adjust, but I had a really wild shot with the MP5 while shooting indoors because of that. While installing the battery, I must have pushed the hop-up lever, because I put a nice dent in the living room drywall about 3 feet higher than the target and my backstop. The wife wasn't very happy about that.

November 25th, 2005, 18:24	#40
Dro Trader rating Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Winnipeg, Manitoba	Can someone tell me if it is compatible with TM mags, Star mags, or CA mags? And can someone post some detailed pictures please? Thanks.

November 25th, 2005, 21:05	#41
mcguyver Trader rating Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Northern Alberta	yes it is.

December 6th, 2005, 15:48	#42
bean Administrator Trader rating Join Date: Oct 2004	From what im reading the internals suck ass in these. Can any of you verify that? I was reading posts about the crane stock ones too and they didnt look to good. They say the gears basically chew themselves up. No big deal really just need to order some new gears im just wondering so i know if i have to.

December 6th, 2005, 19:55	#43
mcguyver Trader rating Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Northern Alberta	gears are exact copy of tm. mechbox was a reinforced 6mm in the one i worked on barely 2 weeks ago. bushings are abs as well as the cylinder head. those are the only things to really change out as a matter of reliability. the spring, spring guide, cylinder, switch are basically tm. the piston is different as the piston head screw is easily removable without that pesky cap that tm uses. they used good lube throughout and the one i worked on was well shimmed.

December 6th, 2005, 21:27	#44
gamer123 Banned Trader rating Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Markham, Ontario	imo it seems utg mp5 is better deal (for usa's price of $100) with all the stuff mp5 comes with...moreover m4 is just overly common nowadays

December 6th, 2005, 22:35	#45
bean Administrator Trader rating Join Date: Oct 2004	Are the gears as strong as tm's. The main problem im hearing is them eating themselves apart.

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