Gotta love the shotty...

[wildcard]

here i sa project for you Ty help me get a hop up on my G&P shotty so I can use .25 with some distance

[m102404]

Setting the steel pin in the hammer face works.

Velocity is low 220fps (w/ 3x 0.20g)...any thoughts on bumping it up?

It's working well...(i.e. just ran 30 shots through it )

[Drake]

Quick pic of mine. It's a work in progress and needs refinishing to a more tactical flat black, which I'll be doing over the winter. Debating adding sights first.



ACM M500 (5x6mm), real steel angled stock adapter with VLTOR stock tube, TAPCO SAW pistol grip and repro (King Arms) Modstock.


here's an earlier pic with an airsoft stock tube (threaded portion wasn't long enough to screw in properly and Modstock wobbled a bit on it). Horrible shine is horrible.

[notec]

That is beautiful Drake. One more to add to my wish list.

[Gato]

Originally Posted by TALIBANMILAN

Sorry for the tread jack Tys

My even older KTW Ithaca 37 with RS Ithaca 37 wood fore-grip mod:

That WAS an amazing shotgun, sadly I had to let her go : (

[safx]

Well look who decided to join the dark
unpractical side of airsoft.

Unfortunately there isn't a perfect choice
for using a shotty, shells on the ground
or bbs in a tube/mag, pick your poison.
Most will agree after gaming an ejector,
that it's not worth collecting the shells,
and slowing down the game.

By far the Maruzen m870 & m1100 are the
most fun to shoot, especially if you can rig
them for C02, stock fps with 3 bbs on props
is low. They also die a quick death on C02
but the brightest candle burns the fastest!

Shotty Pros/Cons:

Maruzen m870/m1100
Pros: realistic action, shells are very
durable, hold 10bbs, good spread when
mixing bb weights, shells are cheap and
easily found online, full stock gas tanks
hold a ton. Cons: exterior is mostly abs,
interior is complicated and all cheap metal,
no replacement parts in stock anywhere,
m1100 is prone to stovepipe jams, shell
bags are fugly, metal externals are very
hard to find and cost a fortune, extra gas
tanks are hard to find, the pistol grip tank
can dislodge from taking in/out wear, made
for use with duster, RS parts don't easily fit.

Maruzen CA870
Pros: cheap price point, mags are also
cheap easily found thanks to G&P. Wide
array of metal externals from G&P/VFC,
fps is about 300 stock but can be higher
with a spring upgrade, easier to pump
than a TM. Cons: shoots 1 bb, carrier that
loads the bbs is plastic and always breaks
off at the bb loading part, no options for
this problem, the G&P built guns use the
stock Maruzen internals so same problem,
replacement parts and Angs upgrades are
sold out years ago, double pumping your
gun to shoot more than 1 bb usually leads
to a quick death also, it's basically a shotty-
sniper gun, RS parts don't easily fit.

Maruzen m1100 Defender
Pros: fun semi-auto action with a mag
fed system, has 1 or 3 bb mode, mags
hold about 30bbs, so you get 15 shots,
loud and has a good kick, fps is about
300. Cons: all the same as the other
m1100's and more, mags are impossible
to find, the bolt carrier will self-destruct
on propane, most of the internals are
plastic, made for use with duster, RS
parts don't easily fit.

KTW Ithaca's
Pros: they're dirt cheap, shoot 320fps
stock when shooting 1 bb, select fire to
shoot 1 or 2 bbs (240fps), has hop-up.
Cons: strange shell tube mags, all abs,
basically a 1 bb shotty-sniper. No known
support for upgrades/replacement parts
and extra mags. Don't know about fitting
RS parts to these, never owned one.

Marushin 1887's
Pros: 8mm 300fps+ power, can handle
propane in stock form (for the most part),
lever action is sweet, shells are durable,
simple and still instock, Guards gun is
mostly metal and wood, well built. Cons:
8mm is costly, shells eject, no catcher
available, T3 shorty is mostly abs with
no upgrade/replacement part support,
people feel the need to movie load this
gun and break the abs receiver, loading
shells can cut you/sharp parts, dropped
shells can deform the rims over time
making loading a problem, shells are on
the expensive side, mid to high price
point for these guns.

Marushin's m500 series
Pros: full metal construction, wide variety
of styles, 8mm is still in production and
easily found, made in 8mm and 6mm, both
shoot at or above 300fps, no shells, holds
lots of bbs in the tube, over 15 shots each
before a reload, holds enough gas to shoot
all it's shots, accepts RS parts easily, most
durable shotty available, replacement parts
for the arms are widely available, takes
most valve upgrades for the inlet, high-flow
available, can be moded for remote C02,
has the best racking and firing sound of all
the airsoft shotguns, it's a beast. Cons: 8mm
is expensive, the 6mm is long discontinued
and slightly flawed, 6mm has more loading
issues due to the 3 tubes being pressed
down to load refills of bbs, than the one on
the bigger 8mm, seals can leak but are not
hard to replace or buy, stock arms are not
very strong, receiver is cast so the stock
threading is weak, overtightening can strip
the threads, the ejection port looks wrong,
higher price point, fixed hop.

TM M3 and Spas 12
Pros: affordable price, in production and
widely available, reliable 3bb springer,
shoots like a AEG, straight and far, good
for all year round indoor/outdoor action,
silent, some upgrades for springs and the
inner barrels can be found, takes cheap
reliable shells that don't eject (10 shots).
Cons: another shotty-sniper, low fps (240),
no real spread, mostly abs inside and out,
crushing loading nozzles is common due to
the hard pump, replacement parts are
expensive and hard to find, RS parts are
incompatible except sights, port is fake and
doesn't move, fixed hop-up for .25g bbs, has
the most unsatisfying feel of all the airsoft
shotties, very toy like, SPAS stock impossible
to find anymore.

TM M203 Standalone Shotty
Pros: fun compact for CQB or as a backup,
cheap price point and shells, springer is
good all year round indoor/outdoor, lots of
rails. Cons: its an m203? lol, even harder
to pump since it's very compact, retractable
stock is too short and wobbly, mostly abs,
has most of the same problems as other TM
shotties ie: nozzles busting.

CAW m1014's
Pros: cool modern shotty, takes 6mm in
a mag fed system, no shells, tactical and
hunter styles available, reasonable price.
gets 30 shots per hidden mag, easier to
pump than a TM. Cons: lots, tactical style
is mostly abs, hunter has some metal and
wood but not enough, fps is very low (230–
250fps), shoots only 1 bb, the fake bolt
doesn't work, another sniper-shotty with
no power or upgrade/replacement support
besides spare mags. Unknown durability,
since I never owned one, just fired one.

Tanaka m870's
Pros: lots of styles in stock, full metal build,
realistic loading and ejecting, shells get 2-3
shots before refills, support from Airsoft
Surgeon custom parts and shells, takes RS
parts with a little work, decent racking sound.
Cons: lots! price is very $teep, external metal
is heavy but not very strong, internals are very
weak pot metal other than a few parts, most of
the firing system will bash to smudged bits in
short time, no support for replacement parts
or upgrades unless buying an AS pre-upgraded
model from Red Wolf, stock shells are fragile!
shells can easily break the plastic insert on the
front that hold the o-ring that keeps in the bbs,
shells are know to leak badly brand new, stock
and AS shells are very expensive, stock shells
have very low fps, catcher bag a must have.

Not reviewing clones, they usually have some
to most of the Pros that the originals have but
they always carry more cons. Buy an original if
you can afford it or find it. Feel free to add to
where I may have missed, been a while since
I've been hardcore into shotties, didn't feel the
need to talk about trade marks.

But to summarize, the Marushin m500 series
has proven to be the best over-all gameable
shotgun for feel/durability/performance/fun,
with the TM a close second for many other
reasons including better distance. I've owned
many of both and they keep finding a way back
into my collection

[diamond_SEA]

I may or may not be planning on moddin a crosman s34p into a steampunk blunderbuss over the winter. Totally impractical, but im in that kinda mood.

[Gridlock]

Originally Posted by diamond_SEA

I may or may not be planning on moddin a crosman s34p into a steampunk blunderbuss over the winter. Totally impractical, but im in that kinda mood.

Now that I'd like to see. Post pics when you start

[m102404]

Yeah...I'm a convert.

Thanks for the listing Steve, it's very helpful for a shotty-neophyte like me.

Tys


..although you must have stopped your self-pleasuring for about 2 hours to type that all out

[Duckman]

wow man...i didnt think you'd get it done THAT fast!!! i hope the wife dont hate me for losing you to the shop forever while making the parts.

is it habit forming though aint it?!?!?!??!?

[hattrick]

Nice write up steve.

[wildcard]

My Bitch,

G&P M870

[MadMax]

Memoriam for dearly a missed friend:





An awesome Maruzen 870 shotty that I significantly modified to fire from an internal CO2 system that fit into the stock. Blasted 10x 0.25g pellets per shell at about 280fps. Sadly the loading mechanism fractured into a bunch of fatigued little bits of poorly selected materials. So sad, it only lasted one awesome day.

[wildcard]

I was honoured to be in the receiving end of it.............. WTF is that owww Hit, Hit, Hit

[MadMax]

Nothing more fun than seeing a foot and waiting for the rest of the body to come around. Finger deliberately squeezes followed by the click of teeth goggles and tissue. Sorry, I was still figuring out where the target point was. I think I nailed Slick right in the face with 7/10 pellets that night.

Then a Red - Green clunk of an expended shell ejected into a cardboard box duct taped to the side of the rec'r.