What is it with all those PTW for sale?

[Brian McIlmoyle]

Originally Posted by Disco_Dante

One of my sigs is getting the evil eye right now because my books this year are going to cost over a grand. FAAAAAAAAAAAACK

Case in point... I have made some excellent deals buying up guns from young guys that spent non discretionary income on toys... literally selling guns off to buy food.

I have an eye out for a PTW for a good price ... but I think september or October will be a better month to find a gun rich cash poor student.

[Nik12]

Thankfully I've always tried to spend wisely and it looks as though won't have to trade guns for rent. I even had enough extra to buy myself a birthday present this past week.

[ujiro]

Originally Posted by Brian McIlmoyle

Case in point... I have made some excellent deals buying up guns from young guys that spent non discretionary income on toys... literally selling guns off to buy food.

I have an eye out for a PTW for a good price ... but I think september or October will be a better month to find a gun rich cash poor student.

Even though I am a young guy myself, I too have made a few of these deals.

And as well, I am keeping my eyes peeled to good deals on PTW packages. With all of these being sold off, it is a good opportunity to finally get one and see if they are all they have been made out to be.

[Lakonian]

Originally Posted by Brian McIlmoyle

Case in point... I have made some excellent deals buying up guns from young guys that spent non discretionary income on toys... literally selling guns off to buy food.

I have an eye out for a PTW for a good price ... but I think september or October will be a better month to find a gun rich cash poor student.

We are a pretty hilarious breed.... This is a fact.

[thePiRaTE!!]

Do be aware that many of the PTWs that are sold began life as a kit. It is not uncommon for an unexperienced person to try to save some money by buying a kit. While the kits themselves are fairly straight forward, the tolerances of the gun are exacting. Little errors can make big problems that can cost a lot of cash to overcome. That's not to say all the guns for sale are broken kits, but it can put a scare on a player when a simple mistake can cost you $250 to replace a board or a cylinder.

Internally, there is no better electric BB projecting system on the planet than a well kept PTW, but they are precision machines and can require precision handling which isn't always as common as the number of guns out there. The price/performance ratio is certainly not for everybody, but its fun while one can justify the cost

[mcguyver]

I would guess that some guys are moving on to other things, but in my instance, it's "retirement" that has driven the sale of my PTWs.

Like Pirate has said, there are alot of variations out there in the condition and functionality of PTWs. If you guys could see all the guns that have crossed my bench in the last couple of years, the condition ranges from pristine to shocking. I have some pics of the worst ones, and they leave you saying "WTF, how could you do that to a gun".

More than once, guys have bought a $1500 kit package, only to find a cracked receiver, dud electronics, bad motor, torn hop-up rubber, poor assembly, poor packaging (and subsequant damage in shipping), you name it. There sometimes are good deals to be had, but you need to be fussy and vigilant in getting all the info on the gun in question.

Sometimes, you might see a gun listed at $3000, but factor in the level of accessories, optics, etc., and the price climbs very quickly.

[Sim123456]

Ok, cool, now I understand better. Me too when i was a younger airsoft collector I wanted a systema, just to see what was a 1500$ usd weapon. But I think personnaly that there is no other Professionnal Training Weapon than a GBBR, since they are more realistic in function

[AngelusNex]

Originally Posted by Sim123456

What is it with all those PTW for sale?

They tried using them and were then hit with a harsh reality.

[mcguyver]

Originally Posted by Sepulcrum

They tried using them and were then hit with a harsh reality.

Lol!!!

[Spawn28]

Originally Posted by kalnaren

It's been raining a lot this year. PTW owners decided they wanted an AEG they can actually use

+1
i personnaly seen 2-4 of em go down at the last game just cause is was humid

For 3000$ you would think it would work under water and not fail at the slightest touch of moisture.

Ah well thats why i would never own one

[mcguyver]

I got one across my bench that I couldn't even disassemble, it has so much brass/steel/alloy corrosion.

I still have the pics.

It never failed due to moisture, in fact, it was working when I got it.

I won't mention who owned this one, to save him/her the embarassment:

[Sim123456]

For 3000$ you would think it would work under water

You mean like this 120$ usd GBBR?

YouTube - AGM M4 GBB UNDER THE SEA

[mcguyver]

Here's another gem. This lower was sent to me in a CP envelope, the fibre-filled one. It was blasted open 3 times, and was dutifully re-taped by CP:




The battery was twisted, and it took me 2 hours to tear the entire thing down, clean it, regrease and reassemble it before I could even mod the motor. Notice all the fibre dust on the lower, well, it was everywhere, in copius amounts.

[pusangani]

i have those same shorts

[Spawn28]

Originally Posted by Sim123456

You mean like this 120$ usd GBBR?

YouTube - AGM M4 GBB UNDER THE SEA

Der ya go