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Old March 21st, 2009, 15:43   #16
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They never broke actually.
neither do mine.... i got my g36c in a trade fired bout 15000 rounds and still perfect.... im the only guy i know that can walk out to the game and have to refill my hicap cause i was shooting trees, water,sky....
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Old March 21st, 2009, 16:24   #17
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neither do mine.... i got my g36c in a trade fired bout 15000 rounds and still perfect.... im the only guy i know that can walk out to the game and have to refill my hicap cause i was shooting trees, water,sky....
I don't think that's your gun's fault... nor is it a good thing.
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Old March 21st, 2009, 16:24   #18
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My luck with TM hasnt been sooooo amazing..

When i was like 15 i managed to score a TM m4a1 v1.

The body pins broke and the barrel wobble got so rediculous it resembled a corner shot. The thing was held together with zipties. Thats why my nickname on the field has always been zapstrap-jak. o.o

The AK-47 on the other hand was awesome, great ROF, fps was a tad low, but i dont mind that and it feels like im not raping my gun when i shoot it
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Old March 21st, 2009, 16:29   #19
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The M4a1 was the worst gun of the TM line. The second was the Famas.
Every other gun they made was very good. Especially V3 gearbox guns.

The G3SAS, although not very popular, was a beast.
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Old March 21st, 2009, 16:50   #20
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With the 100's of cheap clones available in the US market its no suprise that TM has lost popularity they can replace there cheapy guns 3-4 times for the cost of a tm where as in canada getting any airsoft gun can be difficult it makes sense for us to spend the extra money to buy quality.

I have yet to buy a TM only have a JG mp5 right now but it was a starter for me but since i have gotten to shoot quality guns i will def be saving the money and get the TM's from here on out
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Old March 21st, 2009, 19:35   #21
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With a TM you can get a comforting feeling that every time you pick up your gun it will work consistantly for the next few years, where as other brands you constantly wonder what might break. (Well not new PTWs obviously). The new Marui M4's look promising, and the S-Systems have no barrel wobble. But then again I've never been fans of their zinc alloy, they still last longer than wood burning stoves in stock form though, so what ever.
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Old March 22nd, 2009, 00:18   #22
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I'm surprised no one has mentioned the one biggest performance factor that seems to put TM above everyone else (no, not reliability).

TM has designed some of the most stable and effective hop-ups in existence. Look at the post Hi-capa hop-up design (this includes the Mk23 NBB and the VSR-10). They're simply phenomenal. Many of them had a split 'nub' pressing on the rubber before anyone even thought of V-hops or H-hops (case in point, Mk23).

That said, I still swapped in a firefly V-hop rubber, but the stability is all TM.
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Old March 22nd, 2009, 00:25   #23
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I'm surprised no one has mentioned one biggest performance factor that seems to put TM above everyone else (no, not reliability).

TM has designed some of the most stable and effective hop-ups in existence. Look at the post Hi-capa hop-up design (this includes the Mk23 NBB and the VSR-10). They're simply phenomenal. Many of them had a split 'nub' pressing on the rubber before anyone even thought of V-hops or H-hops (case in point, Mk23).

That said, I still swapped in a firefly V-hop rubber, but the stability is all TM.
The Mk23 NBB is amazing. One of the most accurate airsoft guns I've ever used.
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Old March 22nd, 2009, 00:38   #24
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People would rather buy cheap full pot metal chinese guns than plastic ones that work amazing. And then of course complain about the poor performance later when it never works right lol
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Old March 22nd, 2009, 00:42   #25
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never really thought about it untill now. I own a TM, kwa, G&G, G&P, Classic army and a JG. Of all the guns i own I bang around My JG hk416 the most because of the indoor scene. I love My Tm but why dirty up a expensive gun when the more inexpensive JG has rocked all winter indoor. Also My cheap JG hasnt caused me a minor glitch at all since buying it. For simular fps and rps i would rather trip and fall on the JG than the TM any day.
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Old March 22nd, 2009, 01:49   #26
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A simple one piece outer barrel upgrade to the TM M4 and its an amazing, reliable airsoft gun...
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Old March 22nd, 2009, 02:08   #27
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I agree, it's because TM guns are expensive and the 12 year old kid in the states can't afforsd a $300 gun a $5 weekly allowance so that means that there going to sell less.

I'm going to use car analogies again, JG is like a cheap general motors car whereas the TM are like a subaru... The gm car is cheaper because it is made en-mass out of cheap components while the subaru is made out of quality parts. In the end it's a double whammy, the TM is more expensive becuase it's made in japan and also because it's higher quality.

This leads me to the point that TM is probably still doing well in japan because it's a local company therefore is cheaper there.

In the end I really don't care what the states is doing, because that's not where TM's hq is and for the last point, when I do get my airsfot guns, I'm planning on the AEG and GBB to both be TM so they are durable.
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Old March 22nd, 2009, 02:41   #28
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I think with the use of aluminium for the new ones they can reclaim what they lost. The plastic part I think is the biggest turn down, not FPS or RPS. If it feel like a toy people aint going to like it. Unfortunately TM can't use metal for their GBBs since its against the Japanese law.
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Old March 22nd, 2009, 03:32   #29
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I don't think that's your gun's fault... nor is it a good thing.
why would it be a bad thing? also isnt it the guns job to shoot bbs????? im just making sure im getting what i paid for hehe....
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Old March 22nd, 2009, 06:10   #30
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I won't bash the clones, due to the fact I have seen/handled many and they work fine. However when it comes to constant reliability, rock solid preformance it's TM all the way. The m14 hop-up unit is my absolute favorite. I have owned a PTW, tm famas,tm m4, tm M14......the list goes on and I have had to work on my teams guns tons. The clones arn't evil but they do require extra attention espicially when first purchased. TM are harder to get in Canada and at a higher price tag. Also if your planing on upgrading all the internals anyway I can see the lure of a cheaper gun. So to my mind it's price that would be the achillies heel for TM
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