ICS M4 SIR internals what to buy help (formally "G&G or JG")

[Eeyore]

He obviously wants to spend time with his father working on the gun. Get the G&G and work on it until its something you'll want to field. Besides it may even get his dad interested in airsoft was well.

[hot_shot under fire]

Im going with the C7A2.

[L473ncy]

You seem like a nice kid. Almost like me when I was your age. A hard working, straight talker (you don't seem, "wishy washy" at all) and you're really open about your intentions.

A really GOOD upgrade platform would be the Kraken AK-47 since it's cheap and you can put a lot of work into it to get it upgraded and whatnot (it's actually a really sweet upgrade platform IMO).

If you are really intent on getting an AR-15, may I suggest getting the M4 and going the C8 route?

Also, a "better" father son project might be making a cedar strip canoe (I did that with my family).

[ccssneo]

The kraken is not bad my friend has the Tactical one on buyairsoft it had a great feel to it if you like the Kalishkinov series. Heh me and my dad made a canoe together as well. First time we used it it didnt go well let me tell you that

[hot_shot under fire]

I know of the Kraken AK47 and of its great upgrade level but I don't think that a AK would go with a Canadian loadout.

So far I have the basic information I need. I just need a bit more.

Is the stock on the M16 removeable?

I know that the charging handle is unmoveable, but is it possible for me and my dad to make it work? Are there any parts that can help do this?

EDIT: I just found this other Canadian based sight Mach1 airsoft. Anyone dealed with them befor? Anyone like them? They have I believe the same gun there for $385.00- http://www.mach1airsoft.com/web/cata...om&id=24&cat=3Located there.

I just checked and the one on Buyairsoft is no longer in the catalogue.
What do you guys think?

CHEERS!

[Shirley]

Originally Posted by hot_shot under fire

I know of the Kraken AK47 and of its great upgrade level but I don't think that a AK would go with a Canadian loadout.

So far I have the basic information I need. I just need a bit more.

Is the stock on the M16 removeable?

I know that the charging handle is unmoveable, but is it possible for me and my dad to make it work? Are there any parts that can help do this?

Is there a better site to buy the gun from other than 007 airsoft? (Sorry, but there a little pricey.)

CHEERS!

The M16 stock is removable.

You think 007 is expensive?

Wait till you see what the real deal for airsoft is, and then the parts.

[hot_shot under fire]

Well, at the minute its expencive to me because I just spent two thousand dollars to pay for my part of my braces. Im sure that when Im abled to get a job other than working for my dad and corn detastling I will be abled to afford it. I still have schooling to worry about. University and all that.

The guns at 007 arn't that expencive, but they are out of my price range.

[Shirley]

Originally Posted by hot_shot under fire

Well, at the minute its expencive to me because I just spent two thousand dollars to pay for my part of my braces. Im sure that when Im abled to get a job other than working for my dad and corn detastling I will be abled to afford it. I still have schooling to worry about. University and all that.

The guns at 007 arn't that expencive, but they are out of my price range.

It's either you can buy or not. Save up, you are in no rush to buy it.
That's another reason why airsoft is 18+, you are responsible for the money you put out.

[hot_shot under fire]

I ment at the minute, not in a year. In a year I will have enough for it, no problems. I just want to know if anyone has delt with them before. After reading through there FAQ's and seeing that some people have gotten stuff from there before, Im starting to say yes. I have a year to research them and other places, I just want to get into it now so im not mad at myself if I get it.

[L473ncy]

Man. You're a pretty hardcore kid. I never had to pay for braces, well probably cause I didn't need them. I never had to pay for my glasses at least (free lenses, 50% off frames from my health plan). I'm also partly on my parents dime for university (they slightly subsidize my education).

What you should really looking at is paying for school, trust me it's not cheap at all. I'm barely making ends meet as it is ($500 for books, $1000 for housing, $1000 for food plan, and $2500 for tuition yep a good $5000 in the first month of this semester and that's not counting things like beer and other incidentals), and I'm being subsidized by my parents. Plus I just pissed away my paycheque to pay for some "incidentals".

Financial security first then airsoft.

[hot_shot under fire]

Well, I know ths is a dead thread, but I would rather not make a new one.

I have done some more research on this subject and I have a basic buying list.

-Canada C7 Magazine-$45.00 eack from Mach1Airsoft
-Butt Rubber-$15.00 from Mach1Airsoft
-G&P M4/M16 metal accessories set-$35.00 from Airsoftparts.ca
-G&P M4/M16 Ejector port cover-$3.00 from Airsoftparts.ca

I am going with G&G for sure now, but now I am torn between 2 guns. One from Mach1Airsoft, and one from 007Airsoft.

I could get the G&G CAS VERSION: GR16 A4 BEGINNER PACKAGE from Mach1Airsoft, or I could get the G&G GR16 A3 from 007Airsoft.

I believe they both have a fixed stock. The only differance is the price, the quality of the externals, and the lower reciever. The lower reciever of the A3 is a replica Canadian C8 lower reciever, while the A4 is just a normal G&G lower reciever.

I may go for the G&G GR16 A3 but the only problem is that it is a fixed stock. If this is so, how can I make a close replica of the C7A2? Would I have to buy a new lower reciever that is compatible with a new butt stock? If this is so, I will end up going with the G&G CAS VERSION: GR16 A4 BEGINNER PACKAGE. If im saving $80.00 that will have to go twords a new lower reciever, than I will go with the G&G CAS VERSION: GR16 A4 BEGINNER PACKAGE. If the G&G GR16 A3 does have a removeable stock, than I will buy that. Does anyody have any information about this?

Here is the link to the G&G GR16 A3- http://www.007airsoft.com/products/htm/aeg-gg-m16.htm

Here is a link to the G&G CAS VERSION: GR16 A4 BEGINNER PACKAGE- http://www.mach1airsoft.com/web/cata...m&id=199&cat=3

Thanks in advance.

CHEERS!

EDIT: What does fixed stock mean. Sorta a really nooby question, but I have my own idea of what it means, I just need the real meaning.

[L473ncy]

Metal lowers go for about 200 at least....

Why would you need a new stock? The C7 and M16 seem to have the same kind of stock. (This is from reference pictures).

Fixed stock is just that, a Fixed stock, you can't move it or anything like that. As opposed to folding or crane stock, (folding and adjustable respectively).

[Gunny_McSmith]

Originally Posted by hot_shot under fire

Well, I know ths is a dead thread, but I would rather not make a new one.

I have done some more research on this subject and I have a basic buying list.

-Canada C7 Magazine-$45.00 eack from Mach1Airsoft
-Butt Rubber-$15.00 from Mach1Airsoft
-G&P M4/M16 metal accessories set-$35.00 from Airsoftparts.ca
-G&P M4/M16 Ejector port cover-$3.00 from Airsoftparts.ca

I am going with G&G for sure now, but now I am torn between 2 guns. One from Mach1Airsoft, and one from 007Airsoft.

I could get the G&G CAS VERSION: GR16 A4 BEGINNER PACKAGE from Mach1Airsoft, or I could get the G&G GR16 A3 from 007Airsoft.

I believe they both have a fixed stock. The only differance is the price, the quality of the externals, and the lower reciever. The lower reciever of the A3 is a replica Canadian C8 lower reciever, while the A4 is just a normal G&G lower reciever.

I may go for the G&G GR16 A3 but the only problem is that it is a fixed stock. If this is so, how can I make a close replica of the C7A2? Would I have to buy a new lower reciever that is compatible with a new butt stock? If this is so, I will end up going with the G&G CAS VERSION: GR16 A4 BEGINNER PACKAGE. If im saving $80.00 that will have to go twords a new lower reciever, than I will go with the G&G CAS VERSION: GR16 A4 BEGINNER PACKAGE. If the G&G GR16 A3 does have a removeable stock, than I will buy that. Does anyody have any information about this?

Here is the link to the G&G GR16 A3- http://www.007airsoft.com/products/htm/aeg-gg-m16.htm

Here is a link to the G&G CAS VERSION: GR16 A4 BEGINNER PACKAGE- http://www.mach1airsoft.com/web/cata...m&id=199&cat=3

Thanks in advance.

CHEERS!

EDIT: What does fixed stock mean. Sorta a really nooby question, but I have my own idea of what it means, I just need the real meaning.

You are only upgrading the externals of the gun....I thought you were gonna upgrade the internals....wich will cost you alot more

[max.power]

Originally Posted by L473ncy

Metal lowers go for about 200 at least....

Why would you need a new stock? The C7 and M16 seem to have the same kind of stock. (This is from reference pictures).

Fixed stock is just that, a Fixed stock, you can't move it or anything like that. As opposed to folding or crane stock, (folding and adjustable respectively).

Because the C7A2s have a collapsible stock, while the one he is looking at (at least the GR16 A3) has a full stock, and he's trying to do a C7A2 replica.

[hot_shot under fire]

Im trying to do a C7A2. The stock it differant.

I may just have to do the C8. Well, time to start looking for an M4.