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Old December 12th, 2007, 02:38   #16
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The UMP is fucking nice..

I used Thunder Cactus' today... Almost makes me want to get one...
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Old December 12th, 2007, 17:52   #17
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I've heard bad things about star internals and their plastic, from what little experience I have their metal seems ok but that's by no means a weighted opinion lol
What did it for me was the functional bolt catch on the G&G, despite G&G having what seems like the crappiest metal of the mainstream manufacturers, luckily the UMG is plastic
I've got nothing to tell you about the STAR's performance, but my own G&G was shooting anywhere from 160-220 when I got it, incredibly accurate though somehow, I put about 80$ worth of parts in and if I had stayed in flecktarn BDUs I'd be using it as my outdoor gun!
Other people with UMG's don't seem to have the same ridiculous fps problem I had, but it could very well have been caused by improper lubrication from factory.
The mags are a mystery, I have 70 round mags, they hold 70 rounds, the bag they came in stated they held 70 rounds, yet on both redwolf and WGC they say 50, and all the mags Mark brought in after mine said 50 on the bag...
Not to mention the mag springs are so damn strong you can hurt yourself unloading them! We tested the spread on a mag, 70 rounds travel about 20 feet with a 4 foot spread, try duplicating those results with any other mag lol
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Old December 13th, 2007, 00:01   #18
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Im sold o n a GG atm. What did you put in yours Cactus?
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Old December 13th, 2007, 00:18   #19
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I have a stock TM MP7A1 and really love it. It performs quite well and I don't feel like upgrading it since it's mainly for CQB.

Now you guys speaking about that G&G UMP and Thunder mentioning a functional bolt catch makes me wanna buy this one as well.

How much did you pay for that G&G UMG?
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Old December 13th, 2007, 01:09   #20
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.... Hey, You know what's funny.. Thunder Cactus is selling his UMP...

Despite a small (yet easily fixable) cosmetic problem... It is one of the most awesome guns I've ever used.
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Old December 13th, 2007, 18:01   #21
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I can't recall what I paid, its certainly not a wallet breaker though.
Here's what I put in it:
systema silent head set
guarder clear hopup rubber
systema spring guide
systema shims
and a stock CA spring (about 310fps as I recall)

The barrel is still stock, but seeing as how I get ridiculous range on it at 310, it's a prime candidate for a TK twist barrel
Silencer actually makes the gun a bit quieter too!
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Old December 13th, 2007, 21:03   #22
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GG ftw.
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Old December 14th, 2007, 22:01   #23
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G&G any day. It has a standard V.3 box and spare parts are easily available.
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