Mortars

pzrwest · July 27th, 2007, 12:52

Well i guess you could fire them with nothing in the pop bottle but the round would probably just tumble through the air as it wouldn't be balanced. I've never been hit with an airsoft bb so I don't know what the pain factor would be being hit with a bb. But with anything you use whether it be bb's, rubber grenades, etc there is the chance you will get hit and a chance of being injured you just have to decide if you want to take the chance.

Drache · July 27th, 2007, 13:05

anything that takes black powder charges and such are not allowed on our field. Too many chances for something to go wrong....

pzrwest · July 27th, 2007, 16:18

I guess they could also be set up to fire useing Estes rocket motors as well.

GreyFox132 · July 27th, 2007, 21:05

videos !

Greylocks · July 27th, 2007, 21:40

The big problem with mortars is not the design, but the way they are fired.

It's hell to find a mortar that is 100% safe to use for people and the environment. Anything with a heat source as an igniter, blackpowder, other explosives tends to go against a whole truckload of laws.

The only safe mortar system I have seen uses a compressed spring to send the contents of a film canister up and over maybe 30-50 feet at the most.

There are many threads about mortars (and designs) you can read here to find more info.

krap101 · July 27th, 2007, 22:19

catapult type design? wouldn't be a mortar anymore, but it should accomplish basically the same thing.

Ronan · July 27th, 2007, 22:31

Giant spoon filled with 0.30 BB's fired at a range of 50-100 feet around 50 feet in the air. Anyone invents that wins a beer from me :P

GreyFox132 · July 27th, 2007, 23:27

wouldn't it be possible to use CO2 and water to launch the projectile a sufficient distance?

Bandit · July 27th, 2007, 23:32

It is such a shame that we are stuck with Piat-based mortar technology.

I would like to see a video as well.

Hades · July 27th, 2007, 23:49

I'm sure if you get a strong enough spring or springs you can make somthing quite useable. Just a matter of figuring out a way to compress them that does not involve steroids.

ThunderCactus · July 28th, 2007, 00:15

JSOC has tried tested and proven mortars, fires super simple, easily built, VERY low cost disposable rounds. Has a range of 600+ feet, light enough to throw over your shoulder and bugger off, and it runs off either 2 bike pumps (two for speed) or an air compressor. Even with one bike pump it doesnt take long to charge. They're extremely durable and waterproof, and pretty accurate for what it does. Not to mention sounds awesome from the recieving end.
We've also make short rocket launchers based on the same design, fires either 2" nerf rockets or the same rounds our mortar uses.

Amos · July 28th, 2007, 01:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThunderCactus

JSOC has tried tested and proven mortars, fires super simple, easily built, VERY low cost disposable rounds. Has a range of 600+ feet, light enough to throw over your shoulder and bugger off, and it runs off either 2 bike pumps (two for speed) or an air compressor. Even with one bike pump it doesnt take long to charge. They're extremely durable and waterproof, and pretty accurate for what it does. Not to mention sounds awesome from the recieving end.
We've also make short rocket launchers based on the same design, fires either 2" nerf rockets or the same rounds our mortar uses.

I have replicated these things and built my own!

They are very good, and stand up to every claim that's made of them.

pzrwest · July 28th, 2007, 01:34

When I was kid they used to sell racecars that you inserted a co2 cylander in the back end of it and you had this spring loaded plunger thing you pulled back on and let go it pierced the end of the co2 cylander and the model racecar shot off. They were guided by a long string that was anchored to the ground by long nails to keep them going strait. Might be possible to make some foam rounds that you could put a co2 cylander in the bottom end and rig up a pierceing device.

Aquamarine · July 28th, 2007, 03:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by krap101

considering that their mortars they would be shot upwards and will drop with gravity.

So you're saying that what goes up is guaranteed not to hit me?

TokyoSeven · July 28th, 2007, 04:04

Ive have to say, Im partially for this idea and partially terrified of it all at the sametime.

WooT! Raining BBs on my enemys
OH NOES! Weighted pop bottle traveling at my headed at a high veolicty!
Hello leave of absense from work/broken face

Its not that bad I guess, Im not much of a looker anyways. But to catch that one in the crotch. Not a big fan.

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July 27th, 2007, 12:52	#16
pzrwest Trader rating Join Date: May 2007 Location: Cardiff, Ontario, Canada	Well i guess you could fire them with nothing in the pop bottle but the round would probably just tumble through the air as it wouldn't be balanced. I've never been hit with an airsoft bb so I don't know what the pain factor would be being hit with a bb. But with anything you use whether it be bb's, rubber grenades, etc there is the chance you will get hit and a chance of being injured you just have to decide if you want to take the chance. __________________

July 27th, 2007, 16:18	#18
pzrwest Trader rating Join Date: May 2007 Location: Cardiff, Ontario, Canada	I guess they could also be set up to fire useing Estes rocket motors as well. __________________

July 27th, 2007, 23:49	#25
Hades Trader rating Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Home	I'm sure if you get a strong enough spring or springs you can make somthing quite useable. Just a matter of figuring out a way to compress them that does not involve steroids. __________________ If I was banging all of them, I'd be a manwhore. At the moment, I'm just an opportunist.

July 27th, 2007, 13:05	#17
Drache BALLET, TYPE: SELF LOATHING, ANALBURST Trader rating Join Date: Oct 2005	anything that takes black powder charges and such are not allowed on our field. Too many chances for something to go wrong....

July 27th, 2007, 21:05	#19
GreyFox132 Trader rating Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Barrie Ontario	videos !

July 27th, 2007, 21:40	#20
Greylocks Trader rating Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Gatineau, Quebec (Near Ottawa)	The big problem with mortars is not the design, but the way they are fired. It's hell to find a mortar that is 100% safe to use for people and the environment. Anything with a heat source as an igniter, blackpowder, other explosives tends to go against a whole truckload of laws. The only safe mortar system I have seen uses a compressed spring to send the contents of a film canister up and over maybe 30-50 feet at the most. There are many threads about mortars (and designs) you can read here to find more info.

July 27th, 2007, 22:19	#21
krap101 Trader rating Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Roscoe, IL USA	catapult type design? wouldn't be a mortar anymore, but it should accomplish basically the same thing.

July 27th, 2007, 23:27	#23
GreyFox132 Trader rating Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Barrie Ontario	wouldn't it be possible to use CO2 and water to launch the projectile a sufficient distance?

July 27th, 2007, 23:32	#24
Bandit Trader rating Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Calgary, AB.	It is such a shame that we are stuck with Piat-based mortar technology. I would like to see a video as well.

July 28th, 2007, 00:15	#26
ThunderCactus Not Eye Safe, Pretty Boy Maximus on the field take his picture! Trader rating Join Date: Feb 2007	JSOC has tried tested and proven mortars, fires super simple, easily built, VERY low cost disposable rounds. Has a range of 600+ feet, light enough to throw over your shoulder and bugger off, and it runs off either 2 bike pumps (two for speed) or an air compressor. Even with one bike pump it doesnt take long to charge. They're extremely durable and waterproof, and pretty accurate for what it does. Not to mention sounds awesome from the recieving end. We've also make short rocket launchers based on the same design, fires either 2" nerf rockets or the same rounds our mortar uses.

July 28th, 2007, 01:34	#28
pzrwest Trader rating Join Date: May 2007 Location: Cardiff, Ontario, Canada	When I was kid they used to sell racecars that you inserted a co2 cylander in the back end of it and you had this spring loaded plunger thing you pulled back on and let go it pierced the end of the co2 cylander and the model racecar shot off. They were guided by a long string that was anchored to the ground by long nails to keep them going strait. Might be possible to make some foam rounds that you could put a co2 cylander in the bottom end and rig up a pierceing device. __________________

July 28th, 2007, 04:04	#30
TokyoSeven Red Wine & Adderall Trader rating Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Saskatoon, SK	Ive have to say, Im partially for this idea and partially terrified of it all at the sametime. WooT! Raining BBs on my enemys OH NOES! Weighted pop bottle traveling at my headed at a high veolicty! Hello leave of absense from work/broken face Its not that bad I guess, Im not much of a looker anyways. But to catch that one in the crotch. Not a big fan. __________________ "Its only a little bit on fire"

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