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Old June 15th, 2006, 21:56   #16
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So you're sure i need to use Duster and NOT propane? What is the difference?

From what i understand propane produces a higher pressure and seems to be significantly cheaper (although i don't forsee needing to refill my gun too much as i'm always at work). Perhaps i should try the Duster first (since i can do it without an adapter) and then propane.
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Old June 15th, 2006, 22:09   #17
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Duster isn't that great in the M190. Use Green.
You can do what I did, I have the non-compensated select fire of the same gun. Just get a propane adaptor and a tank of propane, then you're ready to rock. Just put your mag upside-down, push the adaptor into the valve for a few seconds, then pull it out. It's as simple as that.
As far as lube goes, from what i've heard i need silicone 10wt or 20wt oil, is this stuff you can buy from Canadian Tire, or is it something i need to get online or at a airsoft shop?
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Old June 15th, 2006, 22:38   #18
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Duster is simple computer/electronics duster gas. Fairly low powered but safe.
Propane is the same as Green Gas you hear about minus a drop of silicone oil.

The simplest system in the long run (pays for itself in less than 2 events) is the Propane adaptor and simple propane tanks you get from any hardware store for dirt cheap.

If your gun is designed for 'green gas', that is what you want to do.

Pure silicone oil can be bought from any decent Hobby stores.

Read the FAQ a bit more, you're on the right track, or (broken record) go to a local game to see all this in person.
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Old June 15th, 2006, 23:12   #19
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Okay, got it - propane it is.
Local game eh? I live near Carleton, where and how would i find one?
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Old June 15th, 2006, 23:31   #20
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Okay, got it - propane it is.
Local game eh? I live near Carleton, where and how would i find one?
Theres a list of games, reps, and all in the forums, take you 3 seconds to find, try it!
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Old June 16th, 2006, 00:24   #21
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Based on my reading, your HFC pistol should only be gassed with HFC143a (Duster), so instead of buying a propane adaptor (which is what I'd usually recommend), you should buy a Duster Adaptor from ASC Armoury.
Wrong. Duster will not cycle the HFC metal slide because it is too heavy, propane is the only option.
Sure am glad I stated it wasn't first hand knowledge
Thanks for the info, Amgoosen.
Sorry, (I think it’s) wrong again.
It’ll cycle it, just not quickly, and only lobs the shot. One of the reviews found on the gun was using 134a as a tester- which worked, yet the reviewer stated that ‘it was obviously meant for Green’.
Great gun, though- I’ve only used it on Green through mine so far, and it works like a charm.

Correct me if I’m wrong, sorry if that was misleading. Simply stating what I found.
Are you sure the reviewer wasnt using the ABS version? The metal version will use too much duster to fire the bb and not have enough left to fully cycle the slide. Propane really is the only option for the metal version.
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Old June 16th, 2006, 07:10   #22
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Okay, got it - propane it is.
Local game eh? I live near Carleton, where and how would i find one?
There are two major gaming fields around Ottawa, if you read the section about Teams, and Events, you will find answers.
The Foxden and the LZ.

Like I said, continue your searching. All you need to know is here for you to read.
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Old June 16th, 2006, 12:19   #23
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Based on my reading, your HFC pistol should only be gassed with HFC143a (Duster), so instead of buying a propane adaptor (which is what I'd usually recommend), you should buy a Duster Adaptor from ASC Armoury.
Wrong. Duster will not cycle the HFC metal slide because it is too heavy, propane is the only option.
Sure am glad I stated it wasn't first hand knowledge
Thanks for the info, Amgoosen.
Sorry, (I think it’s) wrong again.
It’ll cycle it, just not quickly, and only lobs the shot. One of the reviews found on the gun was using 134a as a tester- which worked, yet the reviewer stated that ‘it was obviously meant for Green’.
Great gun, though- I’ve only used it on Green through mine so far, and it works like a charm.

Correct me if I’m wrong, sorry if that was misleading. Simply stating what I found.
Are you sure the reviewer wasnt using the ABS version? The metal version will use too much duster to fire the bb and not have enough left to fully cycle the slide. Propane really is the only option for the metal version.
Nah, it was metal. The guy also mentioned that it 'certainly wasn't pot metal'. However, I suppose you may be right- I'll pick up a can of duster sometime and check it out, I suppose.
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Old June 20th, 2006, 15:08   #24
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Ladies and gentlemen, i'm operational

Recieved my AI propane adapter from the Armoury, picked up a can of coleman propane, and i'm good to go.

Thanx a lot for all your input.
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