MP5's which one to get?

[lurkingknight]

toptech gearbox shells are proprietary, just so you know. That's another from factory part you'll need.

I have 2 g&g v2 gearbox shells on my work bench that are cracked, so they're going to break in colder weather play without a sorbo pad added to the cylinder head.

[Spike]

On the flip side, since there's so many G&G retailers in Canada, parts are super easy to get. I have a stack of replacement non blowback mechboxes that I keep for people who break the pneumatic blowback boxes.

[Wrath144]

VFC makes them for Umarex, they seem pretty good. Mechanical 3 round burst, too!

[BioRage]

^ Heard their GB ain't user friendly.

[Rossco66]

VFC breaks the $ ceiling in this case unfortunatley

[lurkingknight]

the vfc is a full proprietary gearbox to get the mechanical burst fire.. neat system but there's guaranteed no replacement parts for it if you break something or lose one of those tiny springs if you are messing around with the gearbox.

[pusangani]

Originally Posted by redzaku

G&G top tech Mp5 is great stuff, i have one and its great but i am selling it because gas fun guns

Truth!

[hollywood...]

Originally Posted by Wrath144

VFC makes them for Umarex, they seem pretty good. Mechanical 3 round burst, too!

I had one of these - "Fricken Laser"

used it hardcore for 2 years with little issue - worth the extra couple bucks

.... and the externals are exceptional

[Short Round]

Originally Posted by lurkingknight

the vfc is a full proprietary gearbox to get the mechanical burst fire.. neat system but there's guaranteed no replacement parts for it if you break something or lose one of those tiny springs if you are messing around with the gearbox.

I've contacted VFC before and was able to get replacement parts from them on various occasions, shipping was ultra cheap too. Literally any and all stock parts, this includes tiny gearbox springs you should be able to purchase, atleast I was able to during one of my orders.

[Azathoth]

Originally Posted by Rossco66

This is very helpful guys. He will never work on his own gun so the dis-assembly won't be a deciding factor.

Durability and performance will ultimately be important as long as the cost ceiling isn't breached.

The Top Tech concept of an already upgraded gun seems appealing from the minimization of the PITA factor.

This whole process would be a lot easier if companies were more consistent in the quality of one model of gun to the next. lol

If thats the case get a PTW MP5 aka TW5. 900 dollars new from overseas retailers. Mags are amazing stupid expensive. and I believe they are around 40-60ish rounds each that`s the drawback.

1:1 dimensions, weight etc, and the most satisfying HK slap on a gun.

All the other guns listed I will guarantee that your friend will want to eventually upgrade them with new barrels, motors blah blah blah blah blah. Save the 600 dollars to do that and buy the TW5

[Rossco66]

Holy mother of god. Tripling his budget wasn't what I had in mind lol

[lurkingknight]

lolwut?

I'm never sure if you ptw fanboys are trolling or just have no clue on how much it costs to build an AEG.


I've built 30+rps r-hopped guns for people, parts and labor included for 400 bucks on 200 dollar guns. If you only do air seal and not high rate of fire/mosfet, it can be done for under 150 with parts and labor.

[Rossco66]

If the two choices were

1) G&G TGM Toptech A5
2) Umarex H&K MP5 A5 by VFC

Which one wins out for reliability, performance out of the box, overall feel?

[Azathoth]

Originally Posted by lurkingknight

lolwut?

I'm never sure if you ptw fanboys are trolling or just have no clue on how much it costs to build an AEG.


I've built 30+rps r-hopped guns for people, parts and labor included for 400 bucks on 200 dollar guns. If you only do air seal and not high rate of fire/mosfet, it can be done for under 150 with parts and labor.

BASICS:
$300-400 base gun, G&G, CA, etc
$260 CYMA
$120-150 prommy barrel, rubber, R hop, labour for job includes shipping.

OPTIONS Additional:
$5 Milspec wire
$50-100 Fancy mosfets, trigger computers etc depends on brand
$50-75 Quality brand name motor Tienly etc
??$50 kanzen Bearings
$20-60 Lonex, supercore, prometheus, pick one piston
$50-130 SHS, Lonex, Siegetekreplacement gearset

Guntech Fees $50-150 2 hrs time.

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You could do a broxa and upgraded it like you said with a motor, lube, shim, ER hop on a stock barrel and be g2g. But if you want a Quality metal MP5 you're looking at probably 700-800 for a gun plus upgrades, time etc.

Not a PTW Fanboy yet, just tired of opening guns.

[Wrath144]

Cost of PTW motor = cost of entire set of GOOD AEG internals.