Goggles & Shields - Asian Face Specific Options and Updates

[horto]

Tys... asian fit ESS profile turbofans...
http://www.esseyepro.com/Asian-Fit-P...92_detail.html

(going on glowing reviews of the turbofans from my guys)

[lurkingknight]

ess advancer v12s might have been discontinued... last I checked for a pair from ess, they weren't even listed on the site anymore.

they were kinda neat, someone showed them to me at hotbox last year, they sort of pop open at the outsides to open up some gills that vent them... and the plates are close enough together that they don't allow bbs in.

[kullwarrior]

One thing I want to say....two actually
1) Cortex clip can be purchased seperately, The Airsoft version re just standard ESS w/ the clip
2) The Asian-Fit lens can be purchased seperately, Regular version can use Asian-Fit lens (I have a US Army edition Profile with Asian Fit lens)

[coach]

Originally Posted by m102404

...Jay uses them too. They fog for Alfred, Jay says they're great. Alfred can't get them snug enough to close the nose bridge gap (although I'm going to pass along the heat-'em up thing that Stealth mentioned)...Jay jams them on pretty tight and has a pretty broad asian face. Myself...I fog like a mofo and even with T800's Fogtech is a must do...so whatever I get has to have a lot of airflow.

Jay still has a big gap. He can't see it, if you know what I mean.

I fog like crazy with just about anything I use too. T-800 unless moving 100% of the time or there is a significant breeze. Bullet ants have no ventilation and fog fast but I have only used them at TTAC for a crazy shelledpants firefight night. The revision wipes seem to fend off the fog a little longer on those than fog tech. I have even fogged up my JT's with fog tech treated thermal lenses and a fan on moderately humid days.

[m102404]

Recently I had the chance to do a quick test fit of quite a few Revision goggles. None of them felt very comfortable despite some of them having quite thick foam on the seal. The curvature was not flat enough for lack of better description and so there was either a large "scratch my eye with my finger" sized gap at the nose or the frame was really digging into my cheekbones if I snugged it down enough to close up any gaps.

I can see how the bullet ant goggles could be "flattened" though. I don't think the others could be modded.

I bought a pair of ESS Asian Fit Profile Turbofans. Right off the bat the fit was very comfortable and good seal all around. Just some minor testing in the different temperatures that we're having (5-30C)...no hard field use yet. I can see why guys recommend removing the foam surrounding the frame....I haven't done that yet, nor have I coated the lenses with any fogtech. I'll test as they are out of the box first.

The turbo fan is ok. 1x AA battery. They state that it's good for 150hrs on low...and has a 4 hour safety cutoff. I'll test that at the next milsim. On low they are very quiet...there's just a very minor bit of airflow that's most noticeable right between the eyes below the fan. If you're heavily fogged I can't see it clearing the lense without a good stiff breeze to help it along. The high power setting is a bit on the noisy side...and it moves a good bit of air through it. It will clear more fogging pretty quickly. One push to go to low, another to go to high and another to turn it off. I found that I needed to press it enough to go to high and then one more just to know it was off for sure...on low I'd probably not notice it was on.

The elastic head band is pretty strong/thick. I found that snugging it up was too tight after a while and that it really didn't need to be snugged up so much. I have not tried it with the various helmets so far.

Field of view and up and down viewing is pretty good. Much better than any PB googles I've seen. I did not feel like I had "tunnel vision" nor did I feel like I needed to move my head to see something that I might have missed off the side of view.

I wish the cloth slide-over cover was a bit bigger at the openings, or at least on one side. It's a tight fit to get them over the lenses and I'm sure I'm going to tear it.

This weekend's milsim will be a good first field test. 24hrs in fall weather...temps are supposed to be between 5 and 15C.

If there's any issues I'll post them up. Thanks to all who had recommendations.

[Stealth]

Originally Posted by lurkingknight

ess advancer v12s might have been discontinued... last I checked for a pair from ess, they weren't even listed on the site anymore.

they were kinda neat, someone showed them to me at hotbox last year, they sort of pop open at the outsides to open up some gills that vent them... and the plates are close enough together that they don't allow bbs in.

Yeah I had to get mine surplus from the Royal Army in the UK.

[ILLusion]

Originally Posted by TaroBear

The Cortex Clip is just an add-on for the Profile, as far as I'm aware. If you remove the clip, it's just a standard pair of goggles. The gap you speak of is what I'm talking about, hence why I suggested the mesh face guard. It perfectly seals it with mine. As for the airsoft optimization, they just mean that it's as full seal as possible. The goggles are also "double layered". The paperwork with the goggles indicates that's it's also protected from the sides, which they indicate is a danger in airsoft (true enough).

Great thread, Tys. Good and useful info.

I've tried the ESS Profile NVG in the past, and it left a massive gap at my nose bridge. No good. Glad to see these Asian fit ones now exist - I have not revisited this hunt for Asian fit goggles in a while.

Is there a good Canadian source that stocks these?

For shields, I've personally been running a pair of Oakley Radar Path Asian Fit - they really do fit better than the standard model, as it closes up the gap at the nose, around the cheek, and around the eyes, while keeping the lens and frame off your face as much as possible.

I only wish Oakley made tactical goggles in Asian fit - I've worn their Asian fit snow goggles for years, and swear by them.

[Azathoth]

Tyson,

Add a +1 for the Asian profile turbofans. Those are my go to goggles, I wear the Oakley M frame glasses, ESS ICE 2.4 for shooting and sometimes on the field as well with good success.

I had a pair of Advancers, I was too lazy to use a heat gun to mold them, but I ended up losing them on a field anyways. Out of the box Not asian fit.

As you noted you can convert any ESS goggle from 'normal" fit to Asian fit by inserting the asian fit lenses into them. They have nose pieces for some of the other brands to convert them to asian fit as well.

Didn't like fit and comfort of revisions

My preferred sunglasses are Oakley Asian fit half jackets but I wish Oakley made low profile tactical goggles.

[lurkingknight]

hey illusion, where can I find asian fit oakleys to try? nobody has any in ottawa and the radars were on my to try list.

I had tried the large size revision sawfly and it really didn't fit my face. Either the lens rested on my cheeks and left a huge gap at the nose, or the idiot strap tightened down and closed off all the gaps basically sealing them into my face.

Just sitting still like that was enough to fog them in the summer. :P

I don't know of a place in canada that stocks ESS, but I got my asian fit strykers from safetyglassestoday.com in cali... they shipped via usps.

[wind_comm]

ESS V-12s are definitely NOT asian-face friendly.

Revision Desert Locust Asian's are perfect with contact lenses

definitely wish that Oakley made tactical goggles =S
lurkingknight, look for a sunglasses store that does the Oakley Custom fit program.
I love my Asian Fit Half Jackets (very very beat up now) and I just got a pair of Asian Fit Radarlocks that are awesome.
they key thing that Oakley doesn't want you to know, however, is that the "asian fit" models are really the same thing with an optional larger nosepad. so don't be afraid to try the "white people" models

[m102404]

The Oakley Asian fit Radar Pitch are really good. Fit my face extremely well, wrap around, follow cheekbone contours well, etc. The nose pieces fill the gap there well. Coverage is as good or better than a nice pair of shooting glasses...they are almost goggles.

The Asian fit flak jackets fit well to. Oddly the Asian fit half jackets dont...they run at my cheeks and just feel a bit too close to my eyes. Neither of them really wrap around the sides enough to use in a game.

You can call Oakley and just ask for Asian fit nose pads and ear/temple pads. But there are differences in that the nose pieces that fit the half jackets don't quite fit the flack jackets.

CP gear is an ESS dealer. You have to catch them on their order cycles...or wait. I didn't wait and it cost me ~$50 more in total over what CP would have charged. I think they quoted $190 +/-

[lurkingknight]

hey did you hear about that new thing here in ottawa? wendy's is open late. lol


We have NOTHING here... I called around to some of the oakley dealers in town... they don't have anything asian fit in stock.

[BennyBoy]

Revision Asian Fit didn't fit me at all, fit my Jamaican brother-in-law though

I use these though, out of the 4 goggles I tried, these fit the best.

[SuperHog]

What goggle manufacturers need to make are semi flexible goggles that conform to different facial contours. The soft foam will do the final seal.

It seems that asian fit goggles don't fit a lot of asian faces either.

[ILLusion]

Originally Posted by lurkingknight

hey illusion, where can I find asian fit oakleys to try? nobody has any in ottawa and the radars were on my to try list.

In my hunt for them, I have never, ever seen a location carry Asian fit Oakleys as a regularly stocked item.

On a whim, I placed a special order through my optician for a pair of asian fit snow goggles, and I've been buying them from him since. Tried it with the sports glasses as well, and it was a success.

Originally Posted by wind_comm

definitely wish that Oakley made tactical goggles =S

Actually, they do. They just don't have Asian fit, and they're only available to military and LEO. There are a few places in the States that aren't so strict on checking your credentials before ordering, though. I have a pair of the A-Frame SI tactical goggles. They fog like crazy though, so I don't like wearing them too much. They have great optical clarity and are a low profile. That's the only thing I can give it. Besides that, they don't seem too safe for airsoft. A BB can easily pass through the ventilation holes on the top. They have a number of other models available (I think 3 others), but I've never tried them.

Originally Posted by wind_comm

they key thing that Oakley doesn't want you to know, however, is that the "asian fit" models are really the same thing with an optional larger nosepad. so don't be afraid to try the "white people" models

Actually, they advertise this. The primary difference is at the nose. In some models, the temple may be changed as well.