POLL: MG36 as acceptable lmg yay or nay?

[Hectic]

so i have a question that sort of falls into this pole, if i run a full sized 416 (not a cqb or carbine length, it has a 455mm inner) should i be alloud to stick a bipod on it, call it an m27 and carry 1000 round instead of 300?
id love to, but even tho its a prety heavy gun i figure the guys with the 249's would feel a lil cheated even if i am a skinny lil short guy lol

[docholiday]

Originally Posted by Hectic

so i have a question that sort of falls into this pole, if i run a full sized 416 (not a cqb or carbine length, it has a 455mm inner) should i be alloud to stick a bipod on it, call it an m27 and carry 1000 round instead of 300?
id love to, but even tho its a prety heavy gun i figure the guys with the 249's would feel a lil cheated even if i am a skinny lil short guy lol

There already is a thread discussing this: http://www.airsoftcanada.com/showthread.php?t=161801

Just as an FYI the VFC HK416 M27 IAR weighs: 3215g and the Ares Stoner LMG weighs: 3400g, so in this case weight is not an argument as it is basically the same.

[Hectic]

i guess i should say, its a we 416 gbbr, so the mags weigh a crap load lol

[ThunderCactus]

Regardless of whether or not it was ever used, it's still nothing more than a rifle with a heavy barrel. It's a G36 RPK.
far as im concerned the only guns we shhhould allow drums are belt fed MG's. It's really the best criteria and makes the most sense.

[Battlemage]

I believe the MG36 should qualify as an LMG.

This being said I think the rules for a support weapon should require a quick change barrel & belt fed. A classification such as "automatic rifleman" could be introduced for guns such as the RPK, L85 LSW, MG36, etc.

[docholiday]

LMG?

[Danke]

You're gonna have a hard time finding one.

[Battlemage]

Originally Posted by Danke

You're gonna have a hard time finding one.

Finding a shrike really isn't the problem. It's accepting that you can almost buy 3 M249s for the cost of one.

[ThunderCactus]

Originally Posted by Battlemage

I believe the MG36 should qualify as an LMG.

This being said I think the rules for a support weapon should require a quick change barrel & belt fed. A classification such as "automatic rifleman" could be introduced for guns such as the RPK, L85 LSW, MG36, etc.

But in airsoft, what would make an automatic rifle such as an rpk or m27 any different than a normal aeg?
We already have the issue of the dmr and rifle performing the same. When an sr25 doesnt even perform as well as a 10" mk18 ptw.
Bolt action rifles are more prized for silence than accuracy.
Id love to force people to be in the roles they want but unfortunately some roles just dont transfer over.

[Wilkie]

In a Milsim game, if I saw that the person had actually put some work into it, more than just slapping a C mag in it, I would be fine with it. It would need at least a heavy barrel or something like that.

That said Ive really never been to a Milsim game where people were critiqued on their weapon, so I've never had to put thought into it

[ThunderCactus]

To be more realistic, we'd have to limit muzzle energy and ammo weight based on realsteel counterparts.
.36s allowed only on .408s
7.62s use .28s
5.56 is .25
Would be really annoying. Everyone would just run an SR25K though lol

[Battlemage]

Originally Posted by ThunderCactus

But in airsoft, what would make an automatic rifle such as an rpk or m27 any different than a normal aeg?
We already have the issue of the dmr and rifle performing the same. When an sr25 doesnt even perform as well as a 10" mk18 ptw.
Bolt action rifles are more prized for silence than accuracy.
Id love to force people to be in the roles they want but unfortunately some roles just dont transfer over.

Automatic rifle classification would be limited to midcaps but allowed to use automatic function while rifleman is not allowed to use automatic.

[kullwarrior]

This is debated for so long and its whatever the game organzer put it.
Personally, if the AR (automatic riflemen)'s is running a non-belt fed but magazine fed gun, I expect the the inidividual to run standard magazine -just allowed to carry more.
The USMC's M27 IAR runs on 30 round box magazne, the AR just carry more standard standard trooper.

This would also work on MG36, AUG-HBAR, L86 LSW, M27 IAR (an M27 w/ bipod not hk416, there are some differences), RPK, RPK-74

[ThunderCactus]

What prevents a guy in the army from switching his m4 to full auto?
Would have to be ammo restrictions. Theyre otherwise the exact same gun anyway.
Rifles allowed 300 rounds on them, automatic rifles allowed 600?

[Battlemage]

Originally Posted by ThunderCactus

What prevents a guy in the army from switching his m4 to full auto?

The consequences being fined or given extra duties for insubordination.