M16 Shorty

TNK · June 5th, 2005, 03:40

I'm looking to make an Armalite "machine pistol" type of gun as my next project. I'm seeing if anyone out there knows if there are any really short handguards out there. By short I mean shorter than Car-15 Handguards and such. The basic look of the gun will be just receiver all the same size of course, no stock, very short handguard with just the flash hider peeping out. I've looked for pictures, I have some, but most of those are real steel ones. Anyone out there also have a good design thats not also hard to mark out of metal? Thanks guys!

Skruface · June 5th, 2005, 03:50

Gump has a "Patriot-Style" M4.....he no longer uses these boards, however. You may still be able to find pics on the net of his, though.

Grim Fandango · June 5th, 2005, 05:53

I used to have a patriot M4 as well. It was a PDI kit. Here's a picture:

This one used a large buffer tube to store the battery. But you can use an external battery bag/case or a redi-mag system with empty mag to store your battery. That way you can have no stock.

TNK · June 5th, 2005, 21:32

Thanks a lot guys, I think I'll make my own handguard becuase of the price. In that case, is there a way to connect a short outer barrel onto the gun? without having to chop a brand new one and rethreading it for the flash hider. What I mean is, what is a good solution to having an outer barrel for this set-up? I'm looking to make these instead of buying them. I could even make the handguards out of PVC! :grin:

TNK · June 5th, 2005, 21:36

This is an interesting find. I think I'll make a variation of this.

http://www.iris.dti.ne.jp/~echo/images/w_patriot.jpg

TNK · June 5th, 2005, 21:37

This is an interesting find. I think I'll make a variation of this. I'm mainly looking at the way he mounted the battery, other then that, the gun looks extremely...odd...

vondnik · June 5th, 2005, 21:40

well here is my take on the patriot variation. Custom made front section and cut down mp5 stock...

TNK · June 6th, 2005, 03:36

Made a picture of the gun I want. I may or may not put the stock on Very much like the one above. I'm not pro at photoshop and the models were taken from, yes, CS.

Malinak · June 6th, 2005, 06:29

How about one that looks like this:

Taken from here:
http://www.gunsamerica.com/guns/976567924.htm

TNK · June 6th, 2005, 20:11

That is an awesome idea. The thing is, in order for me to put my short handguard/silencer onto the reciever, I'm going to need to take the space of the delta ring, and use the threads on the upper reciever. By using those threads, I can't attach a chamber block on and thus I can't put an outer barrel on there. I guess i could just somehow attach the part of the outer barrel with the front sights ONTO the handguard/silencer. and just have the inner barrel free floating inside the handguard/silencer without an outer barrel piece there.

Ghost Snake · June 6th, 2005, 20:40

is the "patriot" a real gun? i thought it was a made up gun for metal gear solid 3. either way, it definitely looks cooler with the drum mag, as in mgs3.

damage · June 6th, 2005, 21:56

I am also planning a M4 shorty project. I was browsing M4 shorty variants and I stumbled into this. pretty eye catching

Splinter · June 6th, 2005, 23:32

This can give you some idea's.

FYI these are real steel though.

the end · June 12th, 2005, 16:13

them some nice guns, gotta love the patriots

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June 5th, 2005, 03:40	#1
TNK Trader rating Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Vancouver, BC	M16 Shorty I'm looking to make an Armalite "machine pistol" type of gun as my next project. I'm seeing if anyone out there knows if there are any really short handguards out there. By short I mean shorter than Car-15 Handguards and such. The basic look of the gun will be just receiver all the same size of course, no stock, very short handguard with just the flash hider peeping out. I've looked for pictures, I have some, but most of those are real steel ones. Anyone out there also have a good design thats not also hard to mark out of metal? Thanks guys! __________________ Vancouver OP-FOR Club

June 5th, 2005, 21:32	#4
TNK Trader rating Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Vancouver, BC	Thanks a lot guys, I think I'll make my own handguard becuase of the price. In that case, is there a way to connect a short outer barrel onto the gun? without having to chop a brand new one and rethreading it for the flash hider. What I mean is, what is a good solution to having an outer barrel for this set-up? I'm looking to make these instead of buying them. I could even make the handguards out of PVC! :grin: __________________ Vancouver OP-FOR Club

June 5th, 2005, 21:36	#5
TNK Trader rating Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Vancouver, BC	This is an interesting find. I think I'll make a variation of this. http://www.iris.dti.ne.jp/~echo/images/w_patriot.jpg __________________ Vancouver OP-FOR Club

June 5th, 2005, 05:53	#3
Grim Fandango Trader rating Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Toronto, Ontario	I used to have a patriot M4 as well. It was a PDI kit. Here's a picture: This one used a large buffer tube to store the battery. But you can use an external battery bag/case or a redi-mag system with empty mag to store your battery. That way you can have no stock.

June 5th, 2005, 21:37	#6
TNK Trader rating Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Vancouver, BC	This is an interesting find. I think I'll make a variation of this. I'm mainly looking at the way he mounted the battery, other then that, the gun looks extremely...odd... __________________ Vancouver OP-FOR Club

June 5th, 2005, 21:40	#7
vondnik Ban-Fu Sifu Trader rating Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Socialist republic of Kebekistan	well here is my take on the patriot variation. Custom made front section and cut down mp5 stock... __________________ Vondnik, team Bad Karma, PQAC Murphy's second rule: Nothing is impossible for the man who does not have to do it himself.

June 6th, 2005, 06:29	#9
Malinak Trader rating Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Kitchener	How about one that looks like this: Taken from here: http://www.gunsamerica.com/guns/976567924.htm __________________ Do you have any MP5 accessories that you're looking to get rid of just let me know.

June 6th, 2005, 20:11	#10
TNK Trader rating Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Vancouver, BC	That is an awesome idea. The thing is, in order for me to put my short handguard/silencer onto the reciever, I'm going to need to take the space of the delta ring, and use the threads on the upper reciever. By using those threads, I can't attach a chamber block on and thus I can't put an outer barrel on there. I guess i could just somehow attach the part of the outer barrel with the front sights ONTO the handguard/silencer. and just have the inner barrel free floating inside the handguard/silencer without an outer barrel piece there. __________________ Vancouver OP-FOR Club

June 6th, 2005, 20:40	#11
Ghost Snake Trader rating Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Edmonton	is the "patriot" a real gun? i thought it was a made up gun for metal gear solid 3. either way, it definitely looks cooler with the drum mag, as in mgs3. __________________

June 6th, 2005, 21:56	#12
damage Trader rating Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Port Coquitlam, BC	I am also planning a M4 shorty project. I was browsing M4 shorty variants and I stumbled into this. pretty eye catching __________________ Team P.I.M.P. Vancouver BC -Guntech(PM or E-mail only)

June 6th, 2005, 23:32	#13
Splinter Trader rating Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Kitchener, ON	This can give you some idea's. FYI these are real steel though.

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