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Old August 31st, 2010, 23:46   #16
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I ahve a question to all you silenced gbb owners... does a silencer really works on a gbb? I know it has been asked lots of times for AEGs, but for GBB, I've heard and read mixed stuff about those...
No, the cycling of the slide is half of the noise. And you can still hear the gas, just at a lower volume.
Works REALLY well on a NBB like the MK23 though.
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Old August 31st, 2010, 23:51   #17
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No, the cycling of the slide is half of the noise. And you can still hear the gas, just at a lower volume.
Works REALLY well on a NBB like the MK23 though.
o ok, and how about a gbbr? like a WA m4? (same thing right? but with a bolt instead of a slide...)
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Old September 1st, 2010, 02:44   #18
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silencers are really misnamed. They should be called sound signature changers. You will never get that james bond pew pew. And even in real steel the sound of the action will persist.

real steel how ever you have more sound to start with. We use sub sonic ammo already so there is no noise from that and a puff of air is not going to compare to gun powder.

how ever silencers do work in the way that they change how the sound sounds. More of a thump in aegs and a bit harder to locate.
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Old September 1st, 2010, 08:53   #19
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Everyone seems to have a hard on for silenced USPs, either the tactical model or the Mk23. Is this purely because the barrel doesn't tilt? What other models of pistol share this characteristic? It definitely has to be a GBB, btw. I was playing with TNL's mk23 tonight, and as fun and lethally quiet as they are, I like the clackety clack of a GBB.
The barrel still tilts, because like half the autoloading pistols out there, it uses the old tried and true cam action. But some work better than others with a can on it. One thing about the MK23 and USP Tactical, they were designed to have a suppressor mounted, therefore have higher sights than others.

Hehe, my MK23 doesn't really make a clackity clack sound, is more like a loud CLANG!
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Old September 1st, 2010, 10:00   #20
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The NBB MK23 with a can is pretty much silent...from the target's perspective all you hear is a click.

With a GBBR...some things will change the signature, others won't. i.e. the sound adjustable Fire Pig will change the sound of the rifle (far more than it does with AEGs).

On a GBBR, suppressors don't do much of anything overall except to look cool. There's a ton of gas escaping the action with every shot...and the bolt makes quite a racket on it's own. The report of a GBBR is much more dependant on the atmospheric conditions and surrounding vegetation. With some conditions the sound is really deadened and more of a loud cough, with others it's more of a sharp pafft/clank.
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Old September 1st, 2010, 10:13   #21
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the NBB MK23 is a demon with a silencer, but then almost all NBB guns will be, plus you wont have problems due to the silencer weight (expect to have to use a small lightweight silencer rather then a big-ol AEG can)

my WA para has a threaded barrel and i have a super light-weight silencer but i don't use it for fear of the barrel chamber breaking (happened once before and i don't have spares for this pre-SCW gun) it applies a fair bit of extra torque having to cycle the action with a lump of metal on the end of the barrel.

if the gun in question has a fixed barrel then you won't have any issues.

GBBR + Good silencer sounds (fairly close) to a real rifle running subsonic rounds with silencer (action sounds will vary)
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Old September 1st, 2010, 10:18   #22
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The KSC M11A1 is by far the most effective GBB with a suppressor on, simply due to the fact that the bolt is internal and most of the noise comes out the muzzle. With the suppressor on mine, all you really hear when shooting it is the bolt clacking back and forth, which is a huge difference compared to the loud 'BRAAAAAPPPP!!!' without a suppressor.
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Old September 1st, 2010, 10:22   #23
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When I had the M11A1 it doesn't seem to make that much of a difference....

Not sure what you meant by bolt being internal though....

Marushin Ruger MK1 with the integral suppressor works ok as far as noise goes, only if it can shoot for shit...That is a NBB also.
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Old September 1st, 2010, 10:37   #24
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When I had the M11A1 it doesn't seem to make that much of a difference....

Not sure what you meant by bolt being internal though....

Marushin Ruger MK1 with the integral suppressor works ok as far as noise goes, only if it can shoot for shit...That is a NBB also.
Also depends on the type of suppressor used. Mine is custom designed with an internal barrel, perforated for the last half of it, and has baffles. But I installed foam into a buddy's suppressor, and got almost the same result (just without the velocity increase).

The bolt is internal, only the side is exposed through the ejection port. But the nature of it, bolt slides forward, hits the gas relesase valve, most of the gas goes down the barrel and it doesn't take much to make the bolt return to the open position.
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Old September 1st, 2010, 10:42   #25
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Ah ok. The stock G&P made suppressor probably wasn't made like that....
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