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Originally Posted by Bob the Angry Potato
Wait 'til you see a LARGE quantity-order price of REAL Systema PTWs. They go for even less then the Celcius' price of $500-... at the very least, PROVES that the production cost of a PTW is under $500.
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I totally believe you on that Bob - the price point of PTWs do suggest they are between 450-600 in manufacturing cost and raw materials at least. But the MSRP mark up is inevitable and then there's the Canadian mark up. I've said in my previous post that 750 (to 850) final canadian pricing for a Celsius is quite realistic and not too shabby. If manufacturing is 500 bucks, you can't realistically expect street price or MSRP to be 550. To retail at 500 or 550, Celsius would have to get their per unit cost to below 250 to start. Even if Celsius can get it down to 250 - simply for novelty's sake they might not start out with a 500 dollar MSRP anyway. I mean seriously, a respectable businessman would milk the situation - I know I would.
And I think the PTW crowd's point is if final difference isn't going to be that much then its not worth the wait anyway and just plonk down the extra to get a PTW
now. Who knows how long the development time will be, even though prototypes will be out in the next couple months - and it might be a while since Celsius looks serious about making their product work. Like Mcguyver said, if you're committed to putting in good money for something and can afford it - here we're talking AEGs, but it could be ferrarris - then you won't really be asking if you can save 50 bucks here and shave 50 bucks off there. I'm not looking at PTWs for an AEG - pretty sure I'm not paying as much as a real AR just to shoot BBs (not a diss here PTW users, just a personal opinion) But I'm a pretty firm believer in paying good money for a peace of mind and I believe PTW users think the same way.
If the final product works just as well and the price point is fair then I think it will interest many people, me included - heck, maybe even convert a few PTW users, who knows.