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Old January 31st, 2008, 19:26   #1
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A study in airsoft ammunition (primarily BB Bastards)

Last month I started rebuilding my CA M24 with different parts (thanks Dracheous) and have since been trying to milk the best combination out of it since, as well as huge amounts of fine tweaking, shooting and chronying (my new F1 Chrony, the standard of airsoft games) and I've also used BB Bastards pretty much all year 2007 (0.28g BBs, increased brush penetration over 0.25g!!!!) and during my diagnostics on my M24, I started recording info I'd get (about 1/4 of the time). Since Scarecrow, the head Bastard, gave me and a very few select others, his new batch of 0.30g BBs (bag each of 1000 BBs) to test out, I've actually taken it further than I thought I would, as you'll see.

This is a review, but largely a huge pile of info (aka. make this a sticky somewhere)regarding BBs we use in games, why BBs react in different ways and where quality lies in which brands and such. While Scarecrow has supplied me with a bag of each, 0.20g, 0.25g, 0.28g, and his new 0.30g Little Bastards to support my diagnostics as well as help him understand his products (ways to make better or keep as they are), I'm wanting to test other brands of BBs as well, no matter the weight (as long as in the catagory of the above that he sells) to cross reference and compare the Bastards to what else is out there. *****If anyone wants to help me in this, and are willing to donate a small amount of BBs that you use, PM me for my address, all I ask is a bag of 50-100 BBs be dropped in an envelope and sent via a postage stamp (if a full bag, I'll pay Xpress Post shipping).

Anyways, I'll start by posting my post from my first test, velocity droppage vs. increase in BB weight, then add more with a new post (will edit in some areas, but want to keep bringing this to people attention, because it's useful to everyone).

Oh ya, figured I'd say, I'm running my tests with my CA M24 (mind of it's own for velocity on any given night) and my uber consistant TM MK23 springer. All tests are done (unless specified) in my basement, if shots are taken at a target posted, it's at 30ft measured (1" at 30ft could be 12" or more at 100ft in case you are wondering).

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Originally Posted by Stalker

Anyways, I got a bag of the new BB Bastard 0.30g BBs last night (thanks a tonne Testtube, my local Bastard, and Scarecrow, the head Bastard), and have some interesting info. As many know, they come in small (apparently custom made size, Scarecrow thinking about snipers and how little we carry and how little space we have to carry it) bags of 1000 count.

Anyways, Last night when Testie was over (and Hazard, lots of gun work going on), I set about chronying the new 0.30g Bastards. I used 0.20g Bastards to set a reference point because of all the M24 work I've been doing the past week (BTW, wrap your hop up rubber in plumber's teflon tape before you insert into your hop up unit, this eliminates any air leak under the rubber itself, as well as any chance of ballooning.......... rough estimates look like I gained a 20-30fps increase from my particular setup). Unfortunately the only BB I had to compare the Bastards to were the stock of SIIS 0.30g. Check out the interesting numbers I got:

Bastard 0.20g BBs:

508.4
508.4
506.6
511.9
Average: 508.0fps

Deviation: 5.3fps

SIIS 0.30g BBs

439.8
437.2
442.9
432.3
Average: 438.0

Deviation: 10.6fps

Bastard 0.30g BBs

458.7
458.0
455.6
453.2
Average: 456.4

Deviation: 5.5fps

So, just those rough tests of a small portion shows that the Bastards are MUCH better made, a larger size, better consistancy. And, to give Scarecrow a little poke, my general rule of thumb regarding rough fps drop per BB weight............... (why can't I remember or find the damn info, something along the lines of a drop of ~10fps per 0.02g increase in BB weight.......... Crap!!!!).
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