[Ducky]

I know exactly what you are talking about, I simply put forth an instance where there was a positive case. I wasn't saying you do not have experience, but rather the overall tone is very negative, and defeatist.

This here in MB seem to be working pretty well by comparison. So I do not share the same attitude, I help as treasurer of MAA as well provide a field. Our president of the MAA handles any publicity we may get, and so far it has been pretty good; so in general I do not share your belief. Sure this is on a more regional lever, but I can't imagine why it couldn't happen in Ont or even on a national level although I am sure a lot more effort would be needed.

*Edit* Brian McIlmoyle, don't take my comments personally. I am not saying that your efforts were wasted; from the sounds of it you have spent a lot of time and energy on this. I am simply giving a prospective that I see from an MAA standpoint.